Feminist analysis of the royal wedding

Bloody hell....I'm astounded at some of the posts on here

Posh 'forcing' herself into heels when pregnant...you;re not telling me someone made her wear those shoes

Kate being walked down the aisle by her father...so what, plenty of mothers walk their daughters down the aisle and some walk themselves.

Kate and Diana....no comparison...Di was 19, Kate and William met at Uni and have been together (and split) for over 8 years so I very much doubt she's been pushed into this marriage.

I find the 'one wedding ring' slightly odd, but then my dad has never had a wedding ring, despite 30 years of marriage to my mm - dueto the fact he doesn;t wear and doesn;t like jewellery - simple as that...no sinister reason behind it.

Only a male doing a reading - it was her one a only brother - her one and only sister was chief bridesmaid....what's the problem?? I had my BIL do a reading at our wedding...because I love him and thought he'd do a cracking job - which he did. Nothing to do with male or female

Feminism is one thing but I really think some people are reading too much into some of this.......

If you don't like weddings, or religion then fair enough...each to their own, but lets not slag them off but wish 2 young people well in thier life together.

If you're not remotely interested in a feminist analysis of the royal wedding LuckyWeKept (and it doesn't sound like you are), why are you on this thread? I'm not that interested in your wedding, I'd like to discuss the one on Friday, thanks.

Don't know. I married in a church where my parents were married because I wanted to feel close to them even thought they were dead. I don't think of an equal marriage as feminist particularly - just reasonable and caring. But call it that if you like. By 'feminist marriage' I meant the actual ceremony not the whole life. Anyway - got to go now - DH is outside bringing the washing in and I am called by my stampeding children.

Verb 1. obey - be obedient to

heed, listen, mind - pay close attention to; give heed to; "Heed the advice of the old men"

Or did you miss that definition out to suit your argument? I used it to suit mine so can't judge you for that really. Also - by your definition - I agree that following someone's commands would be uncomfortable - luckily I knew I wasn't marrying someone who would issue any. But following someone's guidance isn't always a bad thing - it's what half the people on MN are looking for after all. Don't think I've said anything strange. But each to her own.

still fascinated by what you said lucky 'it wasn't a feminist marriage - it was a love marriage. fortunately i have a completely equal marriage -'

isn't a completely equal marriage a feminist marriage? or were you talking purely from the ceremony pov? you had a patriarchal ceremny, but you have an equal (anf therefore feminist?) relationship?

(not picking a fight - just curious.)

Wish I'd thought of having an avenue of trees though. Very expensive but looks great.

Oh dear. I hardly a goddess either - but I'm sure you know the term 'worship' isn't reserved for deities - it can just as easily mean to hold someone in high regard and I'm sure your DH must do that however you putter on about semantics. My husband listens to me too - we run a business and home as equals so we listen to each other - but the marriage ceremony would go on for hours if you tried to cover all the good points at once. Basically, I'm an independent woman who had the kind of wedding I wanted. Can't imagine we're that different in that respect.

LuckyWeKeptTheCot - you wrote that the vicar said that??

are you trying to imply feminist marriages aren't love marriages? wtf?

Lucky, you said "promising to listen in exchange for being worshipped seemed to favour the woman rather than the man" and that's what sprang to mind. Being worshipped, but not listened to? Hardly an equal marriage.
I don't know about you, but I'm not a goddess, I'm a woman whose husband listens to her.

Time Wasting - my marriage isn't a cage. Speak for yourself.

HandDivedScallops - it wasn't the Church defining it - it was me. What's wrong with going back to the root of a word to see what it means?

By the way - it wasn't a feminist marriage - it was a love marriage. Fortunately I have a completely equal marriage - I do give birth but he can't help not being able to do all the things I can do. I'm sorry for those of you that think of it as a cage. Clearly involved with less evolved humans.

Ooh, another sexist thing that annoys me about the Royal family - that an eldest daughter of a monarch can only become queen if she doesn't have any younger brothers - they would automatically succeed the throne before she would even though she's older. She would be an heir presumptive, but a first born male would be an heir apparent.

There is a suggestion that this will be changed in the future. About bloody time.

- hocuspontas

I think love honour and respect might have done!

I see It's still a load of old bollox isn't it. Bit like women obeying and husbands sharing all their worldly goods because they're not allowed their own.

Just seems so odd in 21st centuary

LOL at "ninja nuns"!

Katie - Diana was Diana, Princess of Wales, but because she wasn't born a princess she shouldn't actually have been referred to as Princess Diana, but Princess Charles, as Princess Michael is, with her husband's first name.

interesting idea - do you think it's a case of picking your battles? and choosing them on the basis of pr-appeal? (pr-appeal isn't really right - more to make a point, ie of course women can read and walk it's a no-brainer. more kudos to claim they can fly a helicopter/ take out an assassin equally as well as a man?)

is it just that it's so blindingly obvious that women can do that other stuff that we (largely) haven't bothered with it yet?

(I don't mean that I think women can't be police officers or soldiers, obv.)

I find it fascinating that the thing that might once have seemed quite logical that men do rather than women - ie the thing that might involve physical strength - women are doing, but the things that women are obviously able to do - speaking in church, escorting a daughter up the aisle - they're not.

i think my point was that an awful lot of things have changed - but they aren't the things that we are looking at. just the things that we are accepting as the norm, now. the things that need changing are the things we are 'seeing'. which is ok. as it should be.

but we do need to give a nod towards the changes with a grin every now and again, too.

yep, i mentioned it earlier. and the female security staff.. and the fact that none of this was mentioned (or the women police/ military on the crowdline) as it was all accepted as being perfectly normal. not worthy of comment.

although the helicopter pilot is a kiwi i think. clearly we couldn't find a home grown one.

btw re the feminist bits of it, I read on another thread that the helicopter had a female pilot - don't know if that 1. is true and 2. has been mentioned on here, but cool if so

also I guess a few years ago there wouldn't have been the female protection officers that there are now? The fact that we were talking about ninja nuns does bespeak a change of attitude about some things I think