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Scrubs and Sexism

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LLKH · 21/04/2011 14:14

I have a four and a half month old daughter and ever since she was born, I have been lurking on the feminism board. I've learned a lot and been very relieved to find that some of the things I thought weren't true at all; specifically, that you can't be a feminist and a SAHM.
Knowing that you can be both has made me think a lot more which brings me to this post.

I used to love the television show Scrubs (up to series 6, after that it got far too soapy and I have Holby and Casualty if I want that Wink), but I was thinking about various things that happen in different episodes(using the Jurassic Park glass shaking thing to describe the approach of a heavily pregnant woman) and I realised that it is actually incredibly sexist, almost bordering on misogynistic. This made me quite sad.

Has anyone else noticed this about any television shows, films, radio programs, books that they formerly loved? Would you tell me about them? And let me know if you agree with me about Scrubs.

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TeddyMcardle · 21/04/2011 21:08

I remember that one with JD, also the one where the women want their own changing rooms and to illustrate how exposed they feel Elliot is made to do a burlesque type dance in front of the jeering male doctors, with JD standing by. Elliot's character constantly undressing no matter what the pretext pissed me off.

pregnantpause · 21/04/2011 20:44

socka- I saw that episode and cried- at the time I was 8 weeks postnatal and feeling under pressure to lose weight and feeling inadequate in the bedroom. It really is a negative message to give to women!
Another episode focuses on jds not seeing married women. As though women are only worth socializing with if there is sexual potential. I think thats a fairly offensive concept tbh.

TeddyMcardle · 21/04/2011 20:40

I used to like scrubs, but now when I see the odd rerun (my little sister likes it, she's 12) I think it was always pretty crap.

SueSylvesterforPM · 21/04/2011 20:35

Inyourendo!!!!!!

I like the episode where they went on a course for S harrasment, the todd is a figure of ridicule so maybe there making fun of these sort of people??

melpomene · 21/04/2011 16:42

I just remembered that there's also the way that Dr Cox tries to humiliate JD by calling him female names - though I think in those scenes the viewer is supposed to be on JD's side and thinking that Dr Cox is being overbearing and annoying; it's not quite as simple as saying "Ha ha, JD is feminine and that's not good."

And JD drinking appletinis is played for laughs - I must admit that I do find that funny.

StewieGriffinsMom · 21/04/2011 16:39

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BelleCurve · 21/04/2011 16:35

I used to love Scrubs, but the last series definitely got more sexist (and less funny - coincidence?)

The sit-com I really struggle with is "how I met your mother" -which is a setup about a group of friends, similar to Friends but the way they talk about the women that one of the group sleeps with is just repulsive.

Bumperlicioso · 21/04/2011 15:30

I love scrubs, but I know what you mean. I've been watching the Big Bang Theory, which I also love, but wondering if it is a bit sexist. At first the only girl was a ditzy blonde, friends with 4 smart guys. However there are now more girls, and tbh the girls tend to come of better than the blokes, usually have the upper hand. And it's true that sitcoms tend to take the piss out of everyone and use stereotypes for comic effect rather than using them as normality.

socka · 21/04/2011 15:18

I like scrubs but one episode, the Janitors wedding I think, irked me. Carla had left the baby for the first time and was wearing big swimming costume and cover up on the beach while Elliot and er the woman from Cougar Town had starved and lipo-ed themselves in tiny bikinis. Turk kept trying to get Carla into bed but she kept ringing home to check the baby. She does a pretty good speech about it all, how hard it is to juggle etc I think. However she soon comes to her senses, gets the bikini on and does her wifely bedroom duty. Hmm

LLKH · 21/04/2011 15:13

Maybe it isn't so much Scrubs itself as what it highlights that bothers me.

FWIW, I'm not totally humourless; I think JD's fantasies are hilarious as is his ongoing war with the Janitor.

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Saltatrix · 21/04/2011 15:08

Scrubs aim is to make fun of everyone in a light hearted way

LLKH · 21/04/2011 15:06

No, you're right. Misogynistic is going too far. Other things are bothering me at the moment so I tend towards hyperbole. Sorry.

As to other examples, in the episode where Turk has a bedtime again, there is a point where he and a bunch of other males are watching American football and Carla comes out to tell him it is bedtime. All the other males then make whip noises. So being considerate of your partner's sleeping habits is to be unmanly and whipped?

However, there are indeed a lot of good things about Scrubs as you mention. That was another reason I posted: to remind myself of its good points. So thank you.

I think it does pass the Bechdel test, actually.

Also, if it takes me a bit to reply to things, it's because DD is demanding attention.

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melpomene · 21/04/2011 14:53

I'm not sure if I would agree that Scrubs is misogynistic - it's a sitcom so obviously they are poking fun at everybody. Carla is a fantastic and strong character from what I remember. Another nurse, Laverne, was large and I can't remember her weight ever being made an issue. Another thing I like is the way they portray inter-racial friendship and an inter-racial longterm relationship/marriage - few sitcoms or dramas do this.

Do you have any more examples of things that you think are sexist in it?

AliceWorld · 21/04/2011 14:42

Not seen Scrubs but with you on the whole sexism on TV etc thing. Have you heard of the Bechdel test? It frankly ruins anything you watch as most things on the TV fail it I find.

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