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My husband talked my 3yr old DS out of choosing pink crocs..

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howdidthishappenthen · 20/04/2011 14:19

... and this saddens me. Pink is his favourite colour, and I'd said he could have them. Then DH picked up a pair with him whilst I wasn't there and he comes back with army camo ones. Why does it have to be such a big deal if a preschool boy likes pink ffs? DH is great generally about equality stuff, but has a thing about boys and pink. Sigh. Anyway - not really a point to this post apart from to share in the hope others might see why I'm disappointed. Noone I know IRL would see my point of view at all :-)

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nickelbaalamb · 22/04/2011 10:36

another thing that doesn't help is that some football teams do their children's replica kit in pink.

DH is a Chelsea fan, and I obbiosuly don't want any child of mine dressed in a Chelsea kit Hmm (i don't think they do Notts County in a baby size!) .
We were talking with one of his workmates the other day about it, and I said about not wanting child to havea chelsea kit, and mate said "oh, well, of course, it migth be a girl, they do pink baby kits" I had a rigth go at him, saying what colour did the Chelsea Ladies' team play in? was it pink? no, then why on earth would a baby girl's kit be a different colour from that???
How much of a tit must a girl look wearing a football kit that isn't in the team's colours? Confused

ReshapeWhileDamp · 22/04/2011 09:40

If we're choosing between several of the same item in different colours - bucket and spade, easter egg decorations - DS1 frequently picks pink. He loves most colours but pink really appeals, though if you asked him, he'd say his favourite was blue. Or red. Grin I enjoy it while I can, because I know damn well I can't bring him up in a gender-neutral bubble and that all too soon, he's going to be swayed by preschool, tv and stupid passers-by. and the poisonous opinions of MIL

WoTmania · 22/04/2011 09:09

hmc - you'd be surprised. DS1 had lovely long hair and got teased and called a girl at preschool. I also overheard a boy chanting 'gayboy' at another child Shock. I reported this to the staff who dealt with it but some of the parents start their sexist/homophobic and often racist conditioning very early Sad

JustCallMeGrouchy · 22/04/2011 08:10

ds2 age 14 has a pink shirt he loves and a purple one to and same in tshirts and he is very much male in his looks and appearnce and his attitude is i like it and i really dont care what others think .( he plays rugby ,sports etc is academic ) .But as a child he loved playimng and had own dolls etc but outgrew when he was ready .

oh and when i said about pink crocs on a 3yo ds he was and whats wrong with that he is 3 !!.If he can see that at 14 .Think a lot seems to be men worrying that there ds may turn out girly or gay etc .

knit2tog · 22/04/2011 07:57

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hmc · 22/04/2011 01:23

Just seen he is only 3 - seems a bit OTT then. Unlikely to engender bad reaction from his pre-school buddies!

hmc · 22/04/2011 01:21

How old is ds? Could dh be concerned that ds might get mercilessly bullied by his peers? Perhaps it was just a pragmatic, realistic decision - we all have to live in society - we might not like it but there it is

BakeliteBelle · 22/04/2011 00:54

DS persuaded DH to buy him a pair of pink crocs last summer. The only thing that worried DH is what other kids might say about them.

We live in the sort of place where boys can get away with wearing pink but went on holiday to a resort - where anyone male was sporting an England shirt and most of the women were wearing white stiletto's - and DS got a really hard time from other boys.

He said to me recently while buying another pair of (white) crocs, 'I won't make the mistake of buying pink crocs again'.

Maybe your DH isn't being small-minded. Maybe he was just concerned about your DS getting the piss taken out of him

WoTmania · 21/04/2011 21:17

Well, pink is a crap, watered down version of red BUT if your DS wants pink crocs then he should be able to have them. He's only 3 :(

I really hate this blue for boys, pink for girls. Short hair for boys, long hair for girls, etc.

Bunbaker · 21/04/2011 12:13

My gripe wouldn't be about the colour, but the choice of footwear. Crocs are vile!

Goblinchild · 21/04/2011 12:12

'at the moment 9/10ths of her hand-me-downs are blues or neutrals!'

Why is that? I thought pink was his favourite colour. Doesn't he have any pink clothes?

FriedEggyAndSlippery · 21/04/2011 12:00

Don't usually venture on to this board but I had to post when I saw the title! Argh. Totally agree with you.

I belong to a local volunteer parents group and we all wear pink tops. My friend got a special one made for her baby boy and he wore it while we were working (at antenatal clinic so public place etc)

I was Confused when she said she would have to change him before she got home to her DH. I mean WTF.

SlightlyScrambled · 21/04/2011 11:49

It is a bit sad really. I hate all the gender typing that goes on with kids.

I am a bit shocked over Thomas the tank engine. That's just silly.

I got some clothes off a friend that she didn't want her ds wearing. Some had little flowers on them or a hem that looked wavy so was therefore "girly" and her 12 month old couldn't wear them. She knew i'd have no objections to putting dd in anything.

The next size crocs will have to be bought with OP, methinks.

TeddyMcardle · 21/04/2011 11:39

Camo for children is awful, ds's dad wears a lot of camo. Hate it, especially on a baby.

sunshinenanny · 21/04/2011 11:32

There was a time back in history when pink was considered a male colour. I agree it's more about the choice than anything else. Children need to have some choice in these things. If its important, like wearing a sunhat in current weather or warm clothes in the middle of winter I insist but pink play shoes. why not; your husband is just being sillySmile

sowhatshallido · 21/04/2011 11:26

my ds favourite colour was pink as a preschooler. He always had to have the pink cup, etc. He loved dressing up with his sister and often wore the pink tutu or the nurse dress. He gradually grew out of it after starting school.
It was just a colour.
(i know dh wouldnt have 'let' him have pink crocs though! He was horrified enough that he loved wearing the pink tutu - and that was in the house!)

knit2tog · 21/04/2011 11:20

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nickelbaalamb · 21/04/2011 11:10

hear hear alice!

aliceliddell · 21/04/2011 11:02

I have a theory that the massive resistance to men/boys doing traditional women/girls stuff is as damaging as restricting girls. We've ended up with all the same shit PLUS pressure to have eg full time jobs in trad. male areas, but men still do far less housework, childcare etc. Boys should def. be brought up much more 'like girls' (excuse generalisation), eg creative not violent, pink not camo.

overmydeadbody · 20/04/2011 17:29

I'm with you OP and agree with tortilla.

Children should be able to make their own decisions about little unimportant things like the colour of their shoes

Ephiny · 20/04/2011 17:24

What a shame he couldn't have his favourite colour just because he's a boy :(

Like others, I'd much rather see a little boy in pink rather than camo, that's just horrible.

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stillstanding · 20/04/2011 17:13

Ridiculous - completely agree with tortilla re children having so little control and choice of colour is such an easy give. DS1's favourite colour is pink at the mo and I practically encourage it. Camo anything is awful ... I remember DS2 was given a camo sleepsuit as a newborn and it made me want to weep.

howdidthishappenthen · 20/04/2011 17:09

Yes, my DH has a several pink tops/ t shirts too. But for some reason this isn't a prob for a grown married man ( maybe because the wife and kids safely proclaim hetero status, but young boys sexuality is undecided?!). Anyway, who knows how the warped reasoning goes. DH is strangely unwilling to be drawn on it :-)

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nickelbaalamb · 20/04/2011 16:14

Have shown this thread to DH, and he said that OP's DH is being daft.

He then proudly said that he has a pink shirt and a pink tie, that he wears sometimes (not together)
but he wouldn't wear pink shoes or trousers.
but that he can't see the problem with a DS wearing pink crocs.