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Belly dancing

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JessinAvalon · 23/03/2011 23:55

I don't want to start a raging debate about this but I am hoping that some on here may be able to settle a difference in opinion between me and a friend.

She thinks (after seeing a belly dancer perform at a feminist arts event in Bristol) that it's anything but feminist and thinks it's not that different to lapdancing (titillating, revealing costumes etc).

I don't see it like that. I do Bollywood dancing (which is very hard!) and have come across belly dancers through my dancing but they were all older, larger ladies (am I allowed to say that?!) and, to me, the belly dancers I saw were celebrating their form, celebrating the dance and generally having fun.

Admittedly though I don't know much about it. Does anyone have any views/experience/knowledge that would help the debate?

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AyeRobot · 26/03/2011 15:09

The banner-making thread is actually written in code. In fact, some of it's in double-bluff - the tampon sponging with the blood of the pateriarchy is a real plan.

dittany · 26/03/2011 15:09

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nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 15:08
Grin
Goblinchild · 26/03/2011 15:06

'Lordie all this over the fact that NB doesn't like the idea that feminists might see belly dancing as a form of titillation for men. For that we get called warmongers. How lovely. Where do the alpha females fit into that?'

This alpha female dances for her own pleasure, and being as I'm pushing 50 with a body like Venus www.blindloop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/venus-of-willendorf.png make of that what you will.

dittany · 26/03/2011 15:05

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nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 15:03

belly dancing isn't a form of titillation for men.

and anyone who thinks it is, canot seriously be a feminist.
or they're missing the whole fucking point

Goblinchild · 26/03/2011 15:03

Please pm SGM, I started decades ago with the Holocaust and then became interested in the background and consequences.
Took me back to the Middle Ages and forwards to Israel.

EngelbertFustianMcSlinkydog · 26/03/2011 15:03

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EngelbertFustianMcSlinkydog · 26/03/2011 15:01

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dittany · 26/03/2011 15:01

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nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 15:00

my interpretation.

i refer you now to SGM, who will interpret what I said.
oh! she already did that! see the post directly below my infer/imply post.

dittany · 26/03/2011 14:59

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dittany · 26/03/2011 14:57

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StewieGriffinsMom · 26/03/2011 14:57

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StewieGriffinsMom · 26/03/2011 14:52

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nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 14:50

i meant inferred - not implied, i'm the one that implying it Blush

nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 14:50

yup.
and i'm not.
i'm not passive-aggressive.

dittany · 26/03/2011 14:48

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Goblinchild · 26/03/2011 14:46

I went through a period last summer of reading a lot on the Jewish resistance movement, both during and after the war. Interesting to see the role women played in many of the groups, and the influence that had on the development of Isreal after the war and into the 70s.
I agree, there is a lot of badly written nonsense based on poor scholarship and agenda-driven without analytical thought. But if you read the crap, you can see how to dismantle it better.

nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 14:45

because i don't believe i invented that.
it might not be what you said, but it's what is constantly implied on this board.
and SGM worded it so much better than me at 14:39:11

dittany · 26/03/2011 14:44

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Goblinchild · 26/03/2011 14:43

Ever seen a dandelion crack concrete SGM?
Apologies to the original, I've given one of my favourite quotes a sex change but...

'?All women dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous women, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.?

dittany · 26/03/2011 14:41

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nickelbabyhatcher · 26/03/2011 14:41

that's exactly what i was trying to say SGM
i think i'll employ you as my official interpreter.

StewieGriffinsMom · 26/03/2011 14:40

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