Sexual innuendos in the work place: How many of us have men who behave like this at work?

I don't care what men may or may not be doing, and assessing someone's attractiveness/"mating suitability" is not the same as there being an "ever present sexual undercurrent".

Pretty sure I also read recently that the reason we find generally find symettrical features more attractive is because they indicate strong genetic disposition and lower likelihood of genetic abnormalities etc.

Assassinated.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. It's proven that's men's testosterone rises when engaging in competitive acts in the presence of females (mating competitiveness) and the very way in which we are innately disgusted by diseased appearances etc and find younger, healthier people more attractive is down to subconscious assrssment of mating suitability - I'm pretty sure there are loads of studies on all this.

I did not notice the date.
The MRAs and TRAs are having a rage fueled rummage through the Mumsnet archives lately.

Men are just so oversensitive and emotional...

I find it hilarious how butt hurt the troll is that women don’t find creepy objectifying comments from senior members of staff in a confined space funny... so butt hurt that he made an account and resurrected a thread from 7 years ago just to tell everyone he is butt hurt!

That sort of low lever sexual harassment is the sort that most men have decided it is harmless, until the documentation piles up and the disciplinary hearing is underway. Then they pretend to be so shocked that they participated in creating a hostile work environment for women.

There isn't an "ever-present" sexual undercurrent in mixed groups. I'm not assessing the attractiveness of my work colleagues at any level conscious, sub or unconscious.

I used to work at a company where there was a lot of (mutual) sexual innuendo and silliness between the sales team - mainly individuals in their 40s/50s. It never bothered me but none of them were creepy with it.

It's definitely a fine line though. I do whether this type of innuendo is so common because of the unspoken but ever present sexual undercurrents between mixed groups - as in you're always subconsciously assessing the attractiveness/mateability of a member of the opposite sex even you don't acknowledge it.

It's not a joke. Jokes are funny. That comment was creepy, inappropriate and as pp have said depends on the power differential. The recipient of the comment would find it difficult to immediately point out the inappropriateness because of it.

But anyway... this is a ZOMBIE THREAD... the op posted 8 years ago. Looks like we haven't moved on at all, with apologists for sexism still popping up here to spout their drivel.

yes he would if they worked together for a long period of time and where in the kitchen together like that

it is a joke a cringey bad one but still a joke

The power differential is what makes it even more inappropriate at work.

He’s a senior director. Would he be saying that to a woman on the ladder above him? No I bet he wouldn’t.

And who either name change or sign up just to do so...

I'm amazed by weirdos who resurrect threads from 7 years ago to whinge @si4foo.

... zombie thread .... 🧟‍♀️

First day on my previous job and the comment I got as I entered the kitchen was "Oh, are you new? great... nice to have someone half decent to look at."
I ignored him, but the interesting thing is that once I got to know this guy, he was polite and respectful towards me and really very nice.

I honestly think that some men simply don't know what to say to women and blurt out the first inappropriate thought that enters their head.

Male socialisation does not prepare them for being normal around women.

I'm amazed at how butthurt people are over something so simple as a joke

Goblinchild - not just the TAs in our staffroom, by any means.

Or maybe, Goblinchild, it's because men who are mature enough to be able to buck the trend when it comes to career choices, are also mature enough to not even think about making sexist remarks, let alone actually say them.

Althoufh I didn't answer the OP.
No, the men in my workplace don't tend to make sexist comments, possibly because they are in a minirity and surrounded by women who would challenge them on it. Also because Primary is a strange place for men, with all the scaremongering about paedophilia and the need to see mostly mothers on a regular basis to discuss their children.
So they tend to tread very carefully in the workplace.

I'd have to say the same as Hulababy, it takes a very secure and stable man to work in primary education in any capacity.
Although it tends to be the TAs who can cross the line and make inappropriate comments that have on occasion caused confusion, distress and embarrassment to the men on staff.
It's not intended as a 'What about the menz?' comment BTW.

Saying that trying to eradicate sexist jokes is going to make life boring is idiotic. This is an attitude that really annoys me. A few years ago, I bet we heard people saying the same about racist jokes, but they are unacceptable now and life can still be funny. And there are some fantastic comedians who manage to be hilarious without being sexist or racist or homophobic etc.

Do people really think that feminists never have anything to laugh about because the only funny things in life are belittling to a group of society and continue the attitude that that group is inferior to the opposite group, or that that group is just a group of objects, not people?

'Men' don't find it acceptable to joke in this way.
'Sexist Wankers' find it acceptable to joke in this way.