Really? Is it just me who doesn't get the Daniel Craig drag thing?

Could you explain why 'trans' have a disproportionately loud voice in feminism?I see the point about confusing gender with sexuality/sex and how this could be damamging. (I couldn't put it into words that make sense yet though) I'm sorry to be so dim, I'm normally a lurker on the Feminism boards.
(possibly with good reason )

oh, I see, sorry Prolesworth

God, I am in such a bitter mood. I've finshed reading Mary Daly's Gyn/Ecology and I've had just about enough crap to last me a lifetime. I don't think I can carry on with this. Just let them win.

"the trans" means "the menz" because of the damage they do to women and feminism by pretending gender and sex are the same

Prolesworth, it's not unheard of for women to go along with sexist, patriarchal ideas, or even create them. The patriarchy loves it, and such women get enormous platforms.

I don't think trasns-sexuals have a loud voice in the media, but I do think they have a disproportionately loud voice in feminism.

And as Dittany says, they have a louder voice than women, within law and medicine.

I'm not quite sure what to make of the JB film, i posted it on FB because people will watch DC. I thought him dressing up in drag was a commentary about how outrageous it is that women are expected to dress like that if it's not good enough for James Bond, but perhaps that's me jumping the gun!

I am surprised. The Daily Mails says

"The film is the first to feature Bond which is directed by a woman, Sam Taylor-Wood and is scripted by Jane Goldman."

I think they got it wrong putting him in drag.
I don't mind him being there, I saw it as him being put on the spot by M.
Maybe more could have been made of that though.

I didn't like it. I think it is patronising and has undermined the message of International Womens' Day. I agree with sakura that this advert was most probably created by men and not women.

It was International Womens' Day, so what do they do? They do a "what about the menz?", they dress a man up as a woman. It is a pastiche of a woman, it's not about women. It is patronising because I guess it is aimed at certain men who would not listen to the advert if macho James Bond wasn't in it. But those men will have found him dressing as a woman a joke and will not take it seriously anyway. What about the main audience of women and men who would have taken it seriously - they will have been disappointed at the unempowering, defeatist image of a man dressed up as a woman. He even pulls the wig and earrings off after no time at all.

I think it has undermined the seriousness of the message, and has presented a defeatist image. Even the final message of the campaign seems defeatist. It says something like
"Are we equals? We won't stop asking until the answer is yes"

But it should be about more than just to keep asking if we are equal until things eventually change. It should say that we are still not equal, and demanding that things change now, that there is no delay, that laws should be changed now and that inequality should be removed now, not some time in the future.

I didn't find it offensive at all. Surely the drag is being used to say that we should all we treated the same regardless of gender, that with the dress and heels DC is still the same person. The priviliges he has as a man wearing a suit should be also enjoyed if he were a woman wearing a dress. Crude perhaps but simple to communicate.

The choice of these film characters is an effective one.
DC, as JB, is a plate of macho served with a large dollop of misogyny on the side. Who better to choose to put in a dress, used as a symbol of womanhood. JD is a strong, authoritative woman as 'M', and her voice over is compelling.

Here ,here PIPRABBIT !

It was a brilliant Bond Spoof , ( as it were)......
Judi Dench said it all, and I thought it was excellent food for thought.
Plus, I hope it made Daniel (GORGEOUS) Craig think about how women are treated.
I guess the reason they picked him ws , he is so masculine and a guy like that , as James Bond etc makes all the guys who like to think they are all male sit don and think about the way some women are treated. i.e. very badly.
The Drag bit wasnt weird, it was about making a man put himself in our shoes . . . . .
No ?

I liked it. I took the message as DC paying lip service to 'understanding and empathising' with women but then as he listens to JD he seems to realise that his actions are futile and he really starts listening to the stark facts.

I took it as him being a bit flippant then realising that it is no laughing matter IYSWIM.

sorry Sakura, I really don't believe that transwomen have a powerful voice in the media.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf I also liked the video, but I'm appalled at the comments left by (I'm guessing) men saying who they'd 'smash'.

There also seem to be a few comments against women's rights on the 'Equals' video, some seem to be coming from women!

lor, sakura, 'the trans'? are they a bit like 'the gays' then? ironic on a thread complaining about women being reduced to a blonde wig and lippie... 'the wimmin' - 'the trans' - 'the Other'.

fwiw, i'm in canada and have been most heartened by the day - not a bloke in a dress in sight that i've noticed, and dd1 (11) spent the day doing leadership workshops at school, followed by a celebration of women presentation given by a painter/ decorator, a nuclear scientist, and a soldier (all female, obv).

i might go and youtube now though, see what all the chat is about.

NOt International women's day obv, but the idea behind this gauche promotion. it seems to me that 99.9% of the media is run by men and trans women.

I'm not in the UK so I can't gague anything about how high-profile it has been there. Suffice it to say, nobody in Japan has mentioned International women's day.
I wonder if this is a PR stunt by the Trans because although there are a miniscule amount of them the trans lobby is phenomenally powerful

yes, I thought it was good to have Daniel Craig there with the Judi Dench voiceover
Not so good to have him come on in drag, implying there is some sort of connection between the lives of drag queens and women. They both like lipstick! Oh, except quite a few women don't like/wear/fetishize lipstick so where does that leave us...

Do you think that having a female film star appearing would simply have allowed men to dismiss International Women's Day as being just for women (and who needs to listen to them?), whereas having a high profile actor, famous for his most macho role, might be saying that these awful statistics are relevant to us all (not just women).