Really? Is it just me who doesn't get the Daniel Craig drag thing?

Has anyone read the comments underneath that video? Some of them are disgusting.

almondlatte, I understood exactly what you meant, and there was no negative intent. I think it has all just been a misunderstanding.

For what it is worth LeninGrad I engaged in this thread because I was pleased that Adair posted the link and my gut instinct was that is was offensive with the James Bond references and so on.
Anyhow I'm dipping out of this now.

Twit, you have made some very good posts. Keep posting, it is very good input.

Lenin I agree, does this go back to your 'that person' - 'that group' as sometimes being difficult to reconcile. (I have been agreeing with what you have written in my lurkdom).
Or have I mis-interpreted this?

(You see this is why I lurk and agree or disagree to myself - I'm rubbish at getting what I am thinking across but thank you all for your patience)

So, so confused about what you wanted to acheive by posting here, StreetWise

You are right LeningGrad, its not good to debate something that may weaken someones views.

Isolate and indoctrinate.

I'm out.

Lenin - I'm just hanging around til my kids want me to do something with them. It's a bit boring when they all get engaged in some game, but I'll probably give up and go and eat lunch in a bit anyway

I just said I don't feel unvalued by my partner, but thanks for the relationship advice

I'm not going to discuss my private life with you, though.

I'm just querying what you are debating about on this thread. If you could make a coherent argument, it would be helpful so we could discuss it properly. As it is, you're kind of making a non-argument. Do you think that all feminists are in unequal, unsatisfying relationships where their lives are shitter than their partners? If so, then you're very wrong.

My life is fantastic, actually, and, on an individual level, I am lucky enough not to be as affected by the patriarchy as most women. But I am angry for the vast majority of women who are affected adversely by the patriarchy and I am a femninist because I think it's wrong and want it to change.

Do you think it's acceptable that only 5% of reported rapes result in a conviction? There is nothing like such a shit conviction rate for any other crime. Why? Because women are not important in society - it is more important that a tiny number of men don't have their lives turned upside down by a false rape allegation than that women don't have their entire lives, all future relationships, their health, physical and emotional well-being destroyed by being raped.

SardineQueen I meant it to say that was thinking about it, pondering it if you like the interpretation - like hmmm or ummmm. I read the right hand description on the site, such as smile, grin, wink, shock, hmm, confused and so on.

I don't use the term a "pile of shit" and that is not what I meant.

It appears that I have been using the wrong smiley, my error.

I have tried to explain what I meant by that. I was being genuine.

I don't like your insinuation that I will get in trouble for that and I thought I would just let you know that.

Please don't try and tell me what I think.

As for value, well if you think your work is not valued then I suggest you find a new partner (if you have one). My DP values what I do, and because I do what I do he can do what he does, and because we are not carrying the baggage of bitterness we can both perform our roles properly. I share in the fruits of his labour as he does mine. That is a partnership, and to try and argue that one half is getting a bigger/better share than the other is fruitless, pointless and worthless. We both get different things out of it, I would like some of his and he would like some of mine but that isn't possible, practical or probable.

StreetWise - Have you watched the video we are discussing on this thread? Have you read through the full conversation, so you have an idea on how different people have interpreted the video? Have you got your own interpretation or opinion on it?

Or have you just come on here to try and create a bunfight? If you have you should at least have the guts and decency to admit it.

I don't get the "bitter" thing.

I have a very nice life, thanks

However I open the newspapers and read about girls schools being burnt in Pakistan, about girls and women being sold into the sex trade around the world, about rape being used as a weapon of war, about women being denied basic rights in some countries, and closer to home, about women being raped and abused and finding that there is no chance of justice, and so on and so on and so on and it makes me ANGRY and I want to talk about it to see what can be done. I don't understand what bitterness has to do with any of that.

Aw, Lenin! You know you're just bitter....

SQ - tell me about it! The number of times people stop DH in the street with the girls and remark on how brave/clever he is to be managing. Thankfully, he is fab and says 'it's not that big a deal, my wife does it all the time and she manages!'.

"The fairer sex"

Or lauded, FB. Praised immensely and described by all and sundry as wonderful.