International Women's Day: how can we make the world more equal?

To go back to the original point of this thread....

Women whill be equal when the statement "I am not a feminist, but.." is not deemed necessary to be put in front of any statement that contains a feminist sentiment.

If the point is to try to get more women to report rape so the scale of the problem could stir police into action, I think it is worth bearing in mind that many women reported attacks in the Warboys (sp?) case and it took the police a painfully long time to connect the dots, and then in the aftermath they appealed to the public for any more women who had been attacked to come forward, leaving a few people scratching their heads and wondering what exactly was going on...

Worth noting too the fate of rape kits in many states in the US -- 'Unprocessed Rape Kits' article here.

I don't know but perhaps some people could be wary of looking at threads specifically about rape.

Maybe it's important to begin to address some of those issues here too ( where more people could begin thinking about them )?

s/he reminds me of those concern trolls we get sometimes.

I love it when people who spend a lot of their time and energy campaigning against something get told how to do it by people who almost certainly don't.
But they have the pragmatism to know you shouldn't actually do anything or even mention it, see, which is much more useful than actual research and campaigning.

MWR had large contingents of women from different Rape Crisis centres. I wonder if they know they ought to be more pragmatic.

What is your point about hate?

oh, so misogyny means love does it.

dittany hasn't mentioned hate.

Projection

Hate never solved anything dittany.

Why don't you go and look at the rape threads

Or are you just here to have a ruck

As if we didn't know the answer to that

oh dear, now the rants begin.

Lets look at what you said:

we know why most rape cases don't get to court. Because most women don't report, because they know they will not get justice because of a widespread attitude of mysogyny which has been discussed over and over again on the feminist boards if you'd care to take a look.

Going by your own words would the sensible thing be to start with addressing Because most women don't report?

I think that's such a good point LeninGrad !

I often feel that when reading responses here on MN.

People are very quick to disagree, and seem slow to recognise their fundamental shared experiences.

What can we do about it ? ... Flag it up ?

Streetwise -- that comment of mine was made to Jjkm.. so no apology necessary (unless Jjkm wants one )

We have already discussed what we can do about it on numerous threads.

Education, incorporating it into the syllabus, bannign widespread porn, respecting women, getting juries to undertake training days where they learn the facts of rape as opposed to myths, are some of the things which have been suggested.

Try doing a search on rape or sexual assaults on the feminism topic and you'll find loads of ideas

mathanxiety was quite obviously addressing jjkm, since she was directly referring to her post.

it's not all about you, you know Streetwisehotmum.
I assume you are going to apologise to her.

Oh shut up streetwiseman you are dull and are here to argue against equality, not discuss how or when it can be acheived.

we know why most rape cases don't get to court. Because most women don't report, because they know they will not get justice because of a widespread attitude of mysogyny which has been discussed over and over again on the feminist boards if you'd care to take a look.

Nobody is going to waste their time trawling through your stupid posts trying to prove a point to you.

what can we do about it is exactly what I am asking.

Hand wringing and spouting statistics that mean nothing then going on about all the evils in the world won't change a thing.

Wanting doesn't make things happen.

as for who believes women should be hired or fired based on merit and not to enhance diversity does not consider herself to be a feminist?...you are clearly deluded.

Show me where I have said that or apologise.

Wondering why someone who believes that the treatment of rape victims in the justice system and the attitude to rape in the justice system needs fixing, and who believes women should be hired or fired based on merit and not to enhance diversity does not consider herself to be a feminist?

When women stop shaking their heads in despair and thinking wanting fairness and opportunity for all is like wishing for geese and golden eggs.