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facts about porn

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littlesez · 06/03/2011 11:41

I hate it and Im not starting a thread to debate about it because i know its been done here before, but i am wondering if people can please help me to find some facts about porn. Rather than personal opinions on it. Of course feel free to debate/discuss/share opinions on it Grin

I am wondering if there is any info out there about the effects of it,facts about pay especially men V women, the devastation it can have on those involved and such.

I feel really strongly but not very good and stating my case so much and so i am asking for help! I want info/facts to back up my argument. sorry if it sounds a bit silly Blush

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SpringchickenGoldBrass · 08/03/2011 22:21

Just FYI if you are going to look at facts and figures, you'll have to do better than David51's link which is the same old discredited bullshit that's been doing the rounds for more than 20 years.
Zillman, for instance, was a right-wing nut whose 'sexual callousness as induced by looking at porn' boiled down to such things as believing it's OK to remain childfree/be homosexual/not want to marry.
ANd half the quotes on that link are attributed to someone called, er, Paul. Who appears to have made them up anyway.

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 08/03/2011 19:06

And then I asked him what the above acts mentioned by dittany had to do with mutual sexuality.

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 08/03/2011 19:02

I asked him if he would be interested in a really good time-share offer Grin

BertieBotts · 08/03/2011 18:50

Dittany, the link that you posted on the other thread has enough facts for me. You don't have to collect statistics about the effects of things like that. Just reading it in black and white in such stark terms must be enough for most people to realise this is wrong.

I used to be much more neutral about porn before I realised just what was in it - and I didn't realise until I read that (another time it was posted, a while ago) - even having seen porn it didn't occur to me. Seeing it out of context is quite horrific. It makes you wonder what is wrong if that in context it's so much less noticeable. (Though I haven't seen porn as extreme as described there).

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SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 08/03/2011 18:14

What would be the best way to respond to somebody who claims that porn is the 'exaltation of mutual sexuality between men and women'?

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David51 · 08/03/2011 11:54

hi littlesez, I hope you're OK

The figures all seem to be from 2005 or 2006, and compiled from lots of different (but credible-sounding) sources.

I'm finding the figures for women users quite hard to accept though:

familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html#anchor7

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littlesez · 08/03/2011 01:38

familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html#anchor5

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littlesez · 08/03/2011 01:37

just found this

familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html#anchor5

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littlesez · 08/03/2011 01:03

just had a look at the shelly website and its just what i needed thanks dittany. I have been thinking bout this all day, have always felt strongly about this subject and i am so so sick of hearing people saying that porn is ok because its not the whole thing is just really sad Sad

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dittany · 07/03/2011 23:29

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David51 · 07/03/2011 23:19

Dittany:

againstpornography.org/womenstestimony.html

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littlesez · 07/03/2011 08:59

Im so grateful for all the replies I want to come back and read them all properly too when my daughter lets me!. Its something i feel really strongly about but i never know how to explain it.

Im not really one for debating but some of my thoughts are that being paid lots of money (which is really not very many cases relatively) is not really an argument agaisnt people being degraded. This is often what i come across when i "argue" that the people involved in porn are highly paid and so empowered in some wat Sad

I also find it hard to think about some of the girls being very young and then that enters the world of child porn urghh its so horrible.

I will be back and thanks for all the links much appreciated Wink

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SardineQueen · 06/03/2011 17:12

I'm sure you could quite easily find control groups for porn use amongst older men. There I imagine you would be able to find men who may have seen none of the modern porn films.

I bet many men my dads age haven't seen a "blue movie" since about 1968 and things have changed a lot since then in content and style. They would make for a control group surely.

SardineQueen · 06/03/2011 17:10

Not at all surprised that there are few studies to show the effect porn has on women.

I think that porn has an absolutely fundamental effect on women. Many women I'm sure would report being persuaded/coerced into doing something they didn't really want to - and the driver for the male in doing this is to recreate something he's seen.

dittany · 06/03/2011 17:09

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JaneS · 06/03/2011 17:04

dittany that is horrible. Sad

Thandeka · 06/03/2011 17:02

Interestingly little research on effect of porn on women. Am finding stuff on google that does say researchers are struggling to find control groups.

LRD- am looking for abstracts via google scholar at min so no journal found yet

dittany · 06/03/2011 16:56

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JaneS · 06/03/2011 16:55

thandeka, if you give me the name of the journal I could try to find it?

Thandeka · 06/03/2011 16:53

I can't remember my athens password but am trying to see if there are studies using a control group of men who haven't seen porn. There are a few comparing regular versus rare consumers of porn IIRC. WIll have a rummage.

Sexualised media hijack is probably my fault- is my bugbear as is so accessible from a very young age- then a jump into watching porn isn't so great?

dittany · 06/03/2011 16:46

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JaneS · 06/03/2011 16:46

thandeka, he's seen adverts but not music vids. Until we got together, he wouldn't watch on-screen sex scenes in films either. I'm aware adverts are sexualized but I think it'd still be a much better experiment than doing without a control group at all.

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