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Aargh - the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child are distributing leaflets to GPs

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LadyBiscuit · 28/02/2011 18:16

This has made me so cross. There was just a piece on PM on Radio 4 about this but can't find anything online. Apparently there are thousands of GPs who have accepted SPUC's leaflet as a way of informing women who are considering abortion about the facts. There was a GP on who was saying that they needed their leaflets because information elsewhere did not provide a true picture.

The SPUC is a lobbying group trying to prevent abortion altogether (let's remember they tried to get the Morning After pill banned a few years ago) and are completely bloody inappropriate as a source of information at a GP's surgery which are supposed to be impartial.

I'm quite tempted to write to the GMC Angry

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sakura · 13/03/2011 04:47

LadyoftheMAnor, if you were really concerned about women having abortions then you'd be doing what feminists have been doing for years and fight for an increase in the status of motherhood through securing financial stability for mothers. This can be done in a number of ways: decent maternity leave provisions, or even by organizing pay-outs and subsidies for women who are prepared to undergo the risky event of childbirth, but ultimately you have to ensure that having a baby isn't a one way ticket to poverty.
Alternatively you could beging a mass education programme teaching men that sticking their dick into women is likely to cause pregnancy, and so unless they're sure that the woman they're with wants to be pregnant, they might try to refrain from putting her in this type of jeapordy.

Anyone who was really concerned about abortion (as opposed to controlling women) would be working on these things

TheGrumpalump · 12/03/2011 11:04

LadyOfTheManor, what on earth do you mean by "rounding women up and plucking babies from their wombs"?! Do you think GPs have targets to meet for the number of women referred for abortion? The the Government has set out to increase the number of abortions? The only women referred for abortion are those who ask to be.

I have never seen anyone promote abortion as a good thing, more that most sensible people accept that whilst it is unpalatable, access to safe abortion is absolutely essential for the safety of women, and that that right should be enshrined in law.

sakura · 12/03/2011 05:20

why doesn't anyone write and distribute leaflets about how environental pollution from the factories entering our food and water supply causes cancer? OR pesticides?

LadyOfTheManor · 11/03/2011 19:11

I'd quite like to read one of the leaflets to see what it actually says.

lubeybooby · 11/03/2011 19:06

Ladyofthemanor there no 'go for an abortion' leaflets.

There ARE however leaflets and websites which point out emotional effects and counselling options as well as procedures (what is involved) and costs where applicable.

Facts, not propaganda

RipVanLilka · 11/03/2011 18:58

Lady - Because the literature contains false information. It contains lies. It's lying to pregnant women. Breast Cancer is NOT caused by abortion

If GP's had consider your options leaflets with all options covered in an unbiased way, that would be fine. Or even 'alternatives to abortion' as long as there was no coercive language, no emotive guilt trips, and everything in it was true

This isn't the case here

Why do you think it's ok to lie to people to get them to do what you want?

LadyOfTheManor · 11/03/2011 18:53

SUrely the "Go for an abortion" leaflets aren't either.

BeerTricksPotter · 11/03/2011 18:52

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LadyOfTheManor · 11/03/2011 18:49

I'm confused- what's wrong with handing out literature about abortions from the other side of the coin? Rather than rounding women up and plucking babies from their wombs, what's wrong with asking women to think twice and providing literature in order for them to do so?

freewoman · 11/03/2011 18:22

Of course if anyone remembered or could find out the GP on the Radio 4 program someone could start with him.

freewoman · 11/03/2011 18:21

Sorry that didnt work

"The GMC can only consider complaints about individual registered doctors. Our Fitness to Practise procedures focus on the most serious concerns, which call into question a doctor?s fitness to practise medicine and right to retain unrestricted registration ? that is his or her right to work.

We have considered your complaint but as it does not relate to a named doctor this issue does not fall within our remit and we are unable to take any action.

You may wish to contact the Department of Health and explain your concerns.

Department of Health

www.dh.gov.uk/"

freewoman · 11/03/2011 18:20

This is the reply I got from the GMC. absolutely bl useless.

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LadyBiscuit · 02/03/2011 21:55

Hi Laura - thanks so much for your post. Excellent idea about contacting our PCTs as well as the GMC (and thanks for posting the email address)

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LauraEFC · 02/03/2011 17:33

Would certainly be a good place to start: [email protected]

You may also want to write to your local PCT to alert them to this issue.

RamblingRosa · 02/03/2011 11:23

Thanks Laura. What do you think the best action to take is? Email GMC?

LauraEFC · 02/03/2011 11:13

Hello

I work for an abortion education charity called Education For Choice and thought you might be interested in our latest blog on this topic: EFC Blog

It's great to see that Mumsnet members are concerned about this sort of information being given out in GP surgeries - we'd love to assist you with any actions you may wish to take and I'm happy to provide anyone with more information should they wish. Just email us [email protected]. We speak to young people in schools and colleges where we know SPUC also give out this misinformation about abortion causing breast cancer/infertility.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2011 13:48

He was hot, though. :o

RamblingRosa · 01/03/2011 13:46

He sounds like a keeper expat Grin

expatinscotland · 01/03/2011 13:45

Her son laid around like a rug, too! He used to come over when my folks were out and I'd say, 'Hi, doorknob, come on in.'

He'd say, 'Why'd you call me doorknob?'

'Cuz you're like a doorknob. Everyone gets a turn.'

Or I'd call him bike (everybody gets a ride), screen door (everyone gets a bang) . . . all sorts.

He thought it was funny.

freewoman · 01/03/2011 13:42

I wish there was an edit function.

freewoman · 01/03/2011 13:41

Handing out those leaflets definately contradicts with the GMC guidelines.

RamblingRosa · 01/03/2011 10:20

I guess it depends where you live Expat. I grew up in London and you never saw the same GP twice at the surgery. It was usually all locums. They rarely lived in the area. So there was none of that embarrasment of it being a "family doctor" (or having slept with one of their sons Grin)

Jux · 01/03/2011 10:09

SPUC is a very nasty group. I too have contacted the GMC asking them to direct GPs not to disseminate this misinformation.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2011 10:08

When I was a teen there was no way I'd have gone to our family's GP for contraception, anyhow.

My sister was sleeping with one of GP's sons and they all went to our church! Yeah, like she was going to walk in there for birth control 'Hi, I'm screwing your son.'

Clinic all the way!

Even our wee town has a sexual health clinic for young people.

RamblingRosa · 01/03/2011 10:00

weegie I think they can opt out of providing contraceptive/abortion advice (on religious/moral) grounds. When I registered at the surgery they did make it clear that this wasn't a "service" that they offered and they give out a leaflet for a walk in clinic elsewhere in the borough.

Fine for me as a grown up who knows about contraception etc but not so great if you're a teenage girl and you've just plucked up the courage to see the GP and you get turned away and sent to some clinic a good 30 mins bus ride away :(

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