Pop Culture Feminists besides Pink?

Oh really? OK. I only saw a bit of it last week as DS was still up and kept changing the channel. She came across well in the bits that I saw, but might not have been representative.

Lea Michelle who is the main character in Glee has spoke in quite a few interviews about feminist issues. She mentioned in one about getting very angry at being labelled a diva as she is a woman who knows what she wants. She said if she was a man she would have been labelled 'powerful' etc.

I'm still a bit about 10 o'clock Live

LL seems to be there as a bit of window dressing, and to sort of present the (male) comedians and take a bit of a back seat herself

no fair, I think.

Oops. 10 O'Clock live I mean. On Thursdays.

Lauren Laverne is good. I like her on that friday night live programme on C4 - surprised I haven't seen threads about that programme actually, seems right up MNers' streets. I'll have a look for one.

"Not sure about Lily Allen. "it's not fair" makes me scream at the radio, if he's so bloody lovely ( ringing lots sounds creepy to me)educate him in the sex department."

..or, alternatively, write a song complaining about it, and humiliate him. It's the gift that keeps on giving

Ellen Page is also in Hard Candy - there's a film for feminist analysis! Very good.

M.I.A?

Joss Whedon YES! a great writer for women's roles.

Lyra from Philip Pullman's Northern Lights. Which makes Philip Pullman a feminist I think? Mariella Frostrup did a great programme recently about feminist literary heroines, I'll see if I can find it.

Diablo Cody - who wrote Juno.
Ellen Page - starred in Juno.
Alice in Tim Burtons version of Alice.

I feel depressed that one of those is a fictional character and I am struggling yo think of any more. :(

PJ Harvey???

Has anyone mentioned Beth Ditto yet?

This is my ummm, 3rd post on this thread am maybe thinking too deeply about this.

Not sure about Lily Allen. "it's not fair" makes me scream at the radio, if he's so bloody lovely ( ringing lots sounds creepy to me)educate him in the sex department. Mind you I can rant for a very long time about sex not being like a Jackie Collins book.

Thinking about this is depressing a bit of an all my heros are dead moment. Only person I can think of is Lauren Laverne

christina aguilerra...for stronger and beautiful, true she was a bit wild before that but she was a girl growing up...

Nina Simone (in my view) was a feminist.

God rest her soul, she was a great talent!

I think Salma Hayek identifies as a feminist.

Madonna?????

Sisters are doing it for themselves:

Now, there was a time
when they used to say
that behind ev'ry great man,
there had to be a great woman.
But oh, in these times of change,
you know that it's no longer true.
So we're comin' out of the kitchen,
'cause there's something we forgot to say to you.
We say, Sisters are doin' it for themselves,
standin' on their own two feet
and ringin' on their own bells.
We say, Sisters are doin' it
for themselves.
Now, this is a song to celebrate
the conscious liberation of the female state.
Mothers, daughters,
and their daughters too, woh yeah,
woman to woman,
we're singing with you, ooh, ooh.
The "inferior sex" has got a new exterior.
We got doctors, lawyers, politicians too,
ooh ooh ooh, ooh.
Ev'rybody, take a look around.
Can you see, can you see, can you see,
there's a woman right next to youo
We say, Sisters are doin' it for themselves,
standin' on their own two feet
and ringin' on their own bells.
Sisters are doin' it
for themselves.
Now we ain't makin' stories,
and we ain't layin' plans.
Don't you know that a man still loves a woman,
and a woman still loves a man
just the same, though.

DH and I went to see Ani Di Franco last month in concert - SHE WAS AMAZING!

What about Courtney Love? A bit of a space cadet maybe, but does things her own way.

Tarrie B is a feminist - she was my gothy metal girl crush during my teenage years :)

Annie Lennox

She co-wrote "Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves", intended to be a feminist anthem.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_Are_Doin%27_It_for_Themselves

www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-schnall/annie-lennox-raises-her-v_b_117986.html

"Well, some of us may have a powerful voice in Western countries, but women in the South often have very little voice in comparison with men. However, saying that, at the same time, when women get together as a group, it's immensely powerful. And I get very frustrated when I hear women saying oh, feminism is passe. Because I think feminism means empowerment. Men can be feminists too! Many men are feminists. We need feminism. It's not against men. It's about the empowerment of women. It's the respect of women. Giving women equal rights, the same opportunities. Women are the mothers. We have to value and respect mothers."