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Do you think Pink is a feminist?

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thefinerthingsinlife · 25/02/2011 09:57

I think she is. There's little things she does in her songs and some of the stuff she sings about indicate she is. Plus I quite like her so secretly hope she is Grin

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fangbanger · 25/02/2011 15:01

Because when your main audience is teenage girls, you aim your message to raise awareness and drip feed the way of thinking.

AliceWorld · 25/02/2011 15:01

And if anyone was suggesting that women are right and correct because they are women why would they be critiquing Pink?

AliceWorld · 25/02/2011 14:59

Isn't Pink writing a song that attacks the women rather like people who object to lap dancing clubs targeting the campaigns towards the women that work there? I agree that it isn't feminist to do that. You challenge the system that makes the clubs exist, not the women who work there. So how is Pink criticising women for behaving in a way that patriarchy produces feminist?

hymie · 25/02/2011 14:52

Pink comes across as a strong female role model and those lyrics endorse that view although that's just a personal opinion.
Most consumers that buy into the Pink style are young girls aren't they? I could be wrong though.

fangbanger · 25/02/2011 14:50

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dittany · 25/02/2011 14:49

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DeidreBarlow · 25/02/2011 14:26

Please don't leave me I think was written about her break up with her husband.

Fwiw I love pink. She's great.

RealityIsKnockedUp · 25/02/2011 14:23

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QuelleLeJeff · 25/02/2011 14:22

I love P!nk, and think that she does a pretty good job of getting some different viewpoints and opionions out there than the usual "Boohoo I love a man, but he left me for my mum" kind of stuff. Which I think is pretty hard to do really, as the music industry is still very male top heavy (pretty much like everything else)

dittany · 25/02/2011 14:19

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seanbonbon · 25/02/2011 14:19

Sorry- slow typer here.
Yes, I agree about the slutty girl who will 'steal' our men given half a chance.

But as a mother of two girls I finds it very worrying how normal it has become to be seen to use your sexuality to your advantage.
I like the point that Pink was making with Stupid Girls, do you want to be the girl who's obsessed with looking good all the time or do you want to go out and play and be a child?

She may have done it clumsily but she seems to be the only one trying in a world of Twilight,HSM, Pussycat Dolls etc.

RealityIsKnockedUp · 25/02/2011 14:17

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seanbonbon · 25/02/2011 14:13

I think Lady Marmalde was a real low point for all the artists involved.

dittany · 25/02/2011 14:12

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seanbonbon · 25/02/2011 14:10

I would worry about how a girl could let herself get exploited like this.

As far as i can see it comes back to a strong sense of self. Even though Paris Hilton comes across as someone with a huge ego I don't think she has it where it really counts- valuing yourself too highly to let someone take advantage of you in such a way.

dittany · 25/02/2011 14:09

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thefinerthingsinlife · 25/02/2011 14:08

I think I stand by my opinion that the song represents the way society views women

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seanbonbon · 25/02/2011 14:04

So, real feminists should defend women even when they act like idiots? Because they are women?

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Malificence · 25/02/2011 14:02

"Calling girls stupid is sexist"

yet a song called Stupid boys would be perfectly fine? Hmm
Alrighty then.

seanbonbon · 25/02/2011 14:02

Hated Lady marmalade but I always thought that 'Please don't leave me' was (harshly) critical of women who would do anything to keep their man, just so they can have a man iyswim?

Yep painting the girlfriend as crazy was maybe a bit much but I think that her songs seem to point out to girls "why act like this for a man?"

Would far prefer my two DDs listen to pink than most of the shite that is touted as music out there.