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Men ... have your say on sexism

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David51 · 26/01/2011 12:42

Pro-feminist men, this feature in the Guardian gives you a chance to speak up

Feminists, get your DP/DH on the case

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jan/26/sexism-andy-gray-richard-keys

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Beachcomber · 27/01/2011 13:03

Or Nugget of Pure Misogynist Gold even.

Beachcomber · 27/01/2011 13:02

Arf.

It was such a classic moment - should definitely be quote of the week except it would piss too many people off.

Please can you think up the feminist equivalent?

Pure Nugget of Misogynist Gold seems a bit unwieldy.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 27/01/2011 12:42

:o

It's like the witch hunt thing.

vesuvia · 27/01/2011 12:37

The motherlode of anti-feminism.

Oh the irony!

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 27/01/2011 12:34

Beachcomber, I now imagine the goldrush going at at DM headquarters every day. Pickaxes at the ready, sweat on their fevered brows as they hack through the day's scientific research, or just their own fevered imaginations, looking for the motherlode.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 27/01/2011 12:29

Hellooooooooooooo out there pro-fem lurkers.

You've recovered from the bosoming have you, David?

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David51 · 27/01/2011 10:49

Thanks for the kind comments, maybe this will encourage some of the pro-fem 'lurkers' out there to make themselves known

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Beachcomber · 27/01/2011 09:12

I'm still snorting sometimes when 'Nugget of Pure Bigot Gold' pops into my head as I'm going about my daily business.

That phrase needs trademarked and franchised.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 27/01/2011 08:58

special way with words eh Hmm :o

Beachcomber · 27/01/2011 08:47

"think David is a supportive regular here (sorry if that makes him sound like a strange military rank, or a pair of special pants)"

This did actually make me cry with laughter.

David is, as pointed out here by Elephant's with her own special way with words, a good 'un.

I was especially impressed by his comment about having a lot to learn and actually having listened to us, rather than get all huffy and entitled.

ISNT · 26/01/2011 19:38

Grin @ feminist crew desperately trying not to scare away a man who is on "our" side

I won't do any more hoisting David, I promise Grin

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David51 · 26/01/2011 19:34
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FlamingoBingo · 26/01/2011 19:34

I like David too.

dittany · 26/01/2011 19:25

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ISNT · 26/01/2011 19:15

Yes I think we like David too.

AliceWorld · 26/01/2011 18:08

To start with I though it was David from the Hooters thread. But then he consistently wasn't an idiot so I am starting to be won round...

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 26/01/2011 18:05

I seriously believe David51 is a genuine profeminist man.
and we have had quite a few fakes.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/01/2011 17:03

think David is a supportive regular here (sorry if that makes him sound like a strange military rank, or a pair of special pants)

"Like, you could do sex if you wanted, in our women-only media-free venue." - :o this just gets better and better. Can we worship the vulva-goddess when the moon is full?

StickyProblem · 26/01/2011 17:02

And I agree with ISNT. I have enough of an idea what revolting-man-chat would be like, and I don't want to ever hear it, hence I've ignored the media coverage of this Sky crap. And if anyone did it in front of me in the workplace I'd complain to them, and about them, till they stopped or got sacked.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/01/2011 17:01

Well I wanted to say that, ISNT, but then thought how am I to know? :o

Agree though, so many men delight in saying sexist shit in the presence of women, men, children, dogs, hamsters, librarians, the lot. They're the "proud to be un-PC" lot. God smite love 'em.

StickyProblem · 26/01/2011 17:00

LOL Elephants, yes lesbians farming nuns would be weird. I meant lesbians AND nuns doing farming. Like, you could do sex if you wanted, in our women-only media-free venue.

David51 I just wrote a long reply and then deleted it. I'm not quite sure what your agenda is. If you want info for the Guardian I think you need to go to Media Requests. It was the idea that women would be strangely fascinated by men-only talk that just made me erupt into bizarre scenarios!

ISNT · 26/01/2011 16:43

Hmmmm

I'm not sure that many men do actually tone down what they say when in the presence of "laydeees", so I'm reasonably sure I know pretty much what men talk about when they talk about women in a way that most of us hope they wouldn't Grin

I wonder how many male pro-feminist lurkers will take up your challenge David Smile

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/01/2011 16:35

Erm, Sticky. I'm a bit confused about whether we're actually going to cultivate nuns, or actually be them.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/01/2011 16:34

:o Sticky.

Don't be all twirly-faced David :). Actually I think it will be quite interesting to hear what men "talk about in male-only environments". If I still had a non-sexist DP I would be telling him to hie over there straight away. And too often they do just ask women how they feel about sexism, which is annoying as it gives the impression that it's our problem to sort out. (Not the One show last night, which I happened to flip past and was interviewing loads of football fans of both sexes of whom nearly all thought Andy Gray deserved the sack.)

It is just quite funny, the idea that we don't usually get to hear men's views on sexism and whether it exists/is a problem etc. Much like when a new film comes out about a commitment-phobic wealthy white middle-aged American man and his relationships with his mates - always end up hissing "well thank god, because that's one of the world's great untold stories isn't it."

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David51 · 26/01/2011 16:19

Well that went down like a lead balloon, not quite what I expected Confused

Still have a lot to learn it would seem so thanks for the feedback

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