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DS2 (4) comes out in favour of the patriarchy

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sethstarkaddersmackerel · 22/01/2011 20:39

DD (5) insisted on accompanying me to my Feminist Network meeting today. I allowed this since the cafe where we met has a play area and I wanted to model 'mum having a life' instead of just 'mum wiping bottoms and preparing food for dcs'. So she came with me while DH took DSes 1 & 2 shopping. Then they had some Quavers.

On the way home I asked DD what she had enjoyed most about the day (thinking she would say the Quavers).
DD: The feminist meeting!
Me: Hmm. Do you even know what feminism is, DD?
DD: Er, no....
Me: It's about making things more equal for women and girls.
DS1 (in a sad little voice): Not boys?
Me: Well you see DS1, at the moment, on average, men earn more money than women and women have to work harder, and we don't think this is fair.
DS1: Tee hee hee! That means when I grow up I will be able to buy more things than DD because I will have more money than her!

Hmm
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YeButerfleogeEffete · 23/01/2011 09:38

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FlamingoBingo · 23/01/2011 09:24

It just goes to show, Ephiny, how ingrained in our culture the patriarchy is Sad

Ephiny · 23/01/2011 09:17

I wonder where they get these ideas - e.g. 'nurses are female, doctors are male', 'we need Daddy to fix the sink' etc? If it's not based on observations from their actual life (where they see female doctors and Mummy can fix things) is someone (teachers?) telling them this stuff? I just can't understand how they are coming to such conclusions otherwise Confused.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 23/01/2011 09:06

LOL Claig.
He is a mini-scientist always wanting to know how we know things but also super-competitive. I think he'll be one of those people that does a science PhD then goes into the City. DD wants to be an artist. The pay gap in our house is going to be slightly bigger than 20% I fear....

Re their assumptions about male and female roles, DD has insisted that nurses are female and doctors are male. This is despite the fact that she has hardly ever seen a male doctor in her life and two of her schoolfriends' dads are nurses....

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FlamingoBingo · 23/01/2011 09:04

I made the mistake of telling my daughters, in a fit of ire at my DH for cocking something up, that only women seem to be capable of doing more than one thing at the same time. Now, if they ask me to do something and I'm busy, and I say I'm busy, they respond with: "But you're a woman! You can do more than one thing at a time!" Grin

claig · 23/01/2011 00:33

seth, he sounds like a future highflier Smile. He'll go far. He sounds quick on his feet and always looking for an angle.

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sethstarkaddersmackerel · 22/01/2011 21:13
Shock

that's spooky!

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AliceWorld · 22/01/2011 21:11

This seems apt Grin

thefinerthingsinlife · 22/01/2011 20:54
Grin
FlamingoBingo · 22/01/2011 20:51

Well, as I have only girls, IME very young indeed...in fact probably born with it. Can't answer for boys, I'm afraid - I imagine they take a lot of teaching...or maybe never learn it!

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 22/01/2011 20:45
Grin

At what age do they learn altruism?

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FlamingoBingo · 22/01/2011 20:41

Grin That's not favouring the patriarchy, it's favouring having one-up on your big sister!

Don't worry - you've got many more years yet to teach him Smile

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 22/01/2011 20:39

oops I mean DS1. If DS2 is already in favour of the patriarchy I'll be gutted given that he's only a baby.

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