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Jamie Oliver - 'pimp the flavour'

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Katiekitty · 21/01/2011 17:46

He says this over and over...

example: 'add some garlic to pimp the flavour'

Is this now a fully-acceptable term to use? His cookery programme is on at 5.30

It all seems part how the sex industry is becoming more and more accepted and normal, cool even.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 22/01/2011 21:07

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Katiekitty · 22/01/2011 21:05

Oh, did I miss the memo - when did it change then?

What does 'pimp' mean these days

And those posters who use/accept the word - do you know where it came from?

Would you use the term 'tart' 'bint' 'bird' for a woman then? It's heard all over, so do you accept that?

Or, what about 'paki shop' for a shop run by a Pakistani? Loads of people say it, is that ok?

And, this is the one I want you to really answer - which word do you use when refering to a prostitute?: 'Prostitute', 'CallGirl', 'Hooker', 'Whore' ? Which one? Any or none of these? Seeing as you are comfortable with the use of the word 'pimp'

I am genuinely curious to how you see the other side of prostitution, mainly the women and how you use/accept THIS word in your day-to-day conversation too

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southeastastra · 22/01/2011 21:04

i've heard radio interviews where jamie oliver has used the word spaz - he or jools are obviously not mumsnetters

rinabean · 22/01/2011 21:02

It's not so much like nigger as like "gyp". Plenty of people use that term who don't realise they are slurring gypsies at the same time. But that's where the word comes from so there's no excuse.

I guess retard would be another similar issue. Lots of people protest that they don't mean it like that but we don't let them off.

But I suppose it's because gypsies and those with special needs are still people, unlike prostitutes Angry

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 22/01/2011 20:58

'pimp' has changed but it has not changed so far as to leave the associations behind. The reason why it sounds edgy is precisely because of the association with the sex trade and semi-jokey idea that pimps are cool. If people using or hearing the word didn't actually know what 'pimp' meant I would be convinced it had changed so much it was unproblematic, but people do know what pimp means and that's precisely why they use it.

scottishmummy · 22/01/2011 20:55

language is fluid and adaptable.colloqualism and different nuances result in different meanings

pointydug · 22/01/2011 20:54

stewie, I can see you;re just going to float in every so often and call him a twat Grin

pointydug · 22/01/2011 20:53

nigger has always had one very clear meaning, no?

The current meaning of pimp has changed.

StewieGriffinsMom · 22/01/2011 20:49

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FlamingoBingo · 22/01/2011 20:45

Nigger used to be acceptable too. When enough people made enough fuss about it, it became, as it should be, unacceptable.

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 22/01/2011 20:43

I think Jamie is very creative in the language he uses to talk about food. I love the way he's always using the wrong word (like 'wazz'... DH was, like 'Did he really just say 'wazz'?), it all adds to the vibe....
But not 'pimp'. No Jamie, no.

pointydug · 22/01/2011 20:39

saying herbage isn't talking shite.

He has always used current slang words. He drove people crazy in teh bean with pukka. There is a current, humorous (to some) type of talk where you add -age on to the end of lots of words, hence herbage. Lots of people use the term pimp meaning to fancufy these days.

It is an acceptable term to use these days. Doesn't mean that is should be but it is.

FlamingoBingo · 22/01/2011 20:33

Just 'liked' his FB page and put this on his wall:

"Hi Jamie. Please could I ask you to stop using the word 'pimp' on your shows? I'm sure you're unaware, and will be horrified to learn of, its etymology. It basically means enhancing something to show off how much more money you have than everyone else in your neighbourhood because you sell the services of prostitute...s. Please, please stop normalising it by using it so casually? Thank you!"

scottishmummy · 22/01/2011 20:28

like jamie find him v affable and easy to watch

southeastastra · 22/01/2011 20:27

pimp my ride is a good show though Wink

jamie oliver comes out with some corkers, he always talks shite

FlamingoBingo · 22/01/2011 20:25

x-post lifeinlimbo

FlamingoBingo · 22/01/2011 20:25

Well, personally, I am (and I think this has been said a few times) categorically not offended by JO saying 'pimp' on his programmes.

I am concerned that such language is being normalised, however innocently, by its usage on programmes like this. I would imagine (hope?) that JO would be upset if he realised what he was actually saying. I think he's naive. Maybe he needs emailing to gently point out the emytology of the word?

lifeinlimbo · 22/01/2011 20:23

It makes me want to vom when someone uses the word 'pimp' as something positive.

Somebody please inform JO of the conotations post haste.

ThePosieParker · 22/01/2011 20:05

Oh and whilst in a fast food est. (all dcs and me ill, dh away....justification surely???) I heard a girl tell her bf that giving him her cash card made her feel like she'd been raped.

CountBapula · 22/01/2011 20:05

katiekitty I agree, I find the term 'Facebook rape' (or 'frape') very distasteful indeed.

ThePosieParker · 22/01/2011 20:04

Someone said on twitter that DC was raping the NHS...

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Katiekitty · 22/01/2011 20:04

Like what Scottishmummy?

Give me an example...

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MissTFied · 22/01/2011 20:01

The man talks a lot of shite generally (herbage?).

scottishmummy · 22/01/2011 20:00

kids hear worse at after school then Jamie quips

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Katiekitty · 22/01/2011 19:59

Fair enough scottishmummy but what I find distastful in Jamie's cooking is the colloquial use of a term normally applied to prostitution and exploitation of women.

Used in a cookery programme on at teatime, made by a man famed for his schooldinners, so watched by millions, of all ages.

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