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I don't look at a stripper or a topless woman as a sex object. I look at her as a woman and understand she is just working and deserves respect like anyone else.

Nope, I can't even be bothered to be sarcastic anymore.

I don't know if this thread will get many hits. But in answer to the question earlier about whether it should be banned, I think it will never go away if there isn't some legislation around the display of it at least. It's too ingrained now as good old British culture (to morons) for it to ever go of its own accord. Even a female editor didn't dare tackle the owner on this one.

Absolutely Dave. You're quite right.

@The FinerThings - Francine, who set the group up, is amazing. You could befriend her on Facebook (I'm friends with her). She's a feminist powerhouse!

oh yes, that other perspective... the one we never ever ever hear in real life, the one our culture isn't saturated in... oh, hang on...

fuckit I'm off to bed.

And er Jess, I hate to tell you, but with a troll of Dave's calibre, I'm afraid it is back to basics.

It's going to be a LONG night for some of you...

Just once.. try and look at things from another perspective.

"have you heard of the concept of objectification?"

I disagree. A woman who poses topless isn't any less of a woman than a female author. It's just a job.

Oh Dave, you're really not very sophisticated are you?

I would support whatever she chose to do.

And if a woman can make loads of money from men simply by removing her top then she is more likely expoliting the men not the other way round.

Oh god, do we have to go back to basics for this one?

Dave - have you heard of the concept of objectification? And that it's a bad thing.

You want equality right? Doesn't that mean wherever it's legal and acceptable for a man to remove his top it should also be ok for a woman to remove her top?

Feminism IMO should be about choice. If a woman wants to take her top off for money she should be able to do so without others telling her "no you can't do that because we don't like it".

"I don't know Jess, I've already hit the ignore button."

All you are doing is showing you can't accept some people have different opinions to yourself. I would respect you more if you weren't so close-minded.

"Do you think that Dave realised that this is the feminism section and not the misogynist section"

I hate all 3 billion women in the world just because I don't agree with you? Yeah that makes a lot of sense...

I'm sure you are better than to resort to name calling.

I don't know Jess, I've already hit the ignore button.

What are tits? oh yeah they're fat with milk glands for feeding babies. Women have them and some men have them without the milk. Practically everyone has seen a pair whilst a baby. So what's so offensive about them?

Do you think that Dave realised that this is the feminism section and not the misogynist section? I know people do wander here by mistake sometimes!

I'm sure that Dave can teach us a thing or two about misogyny feminism.

Starting with: just because he has a different opinion, it doesn't make him wrong.

have another biscuit Dave

now go back to your holt or your basket or wherever you live.

Absolutely Dave! Yeah lighten up everyone! So it's a barely legal girl with her tits out that's become so mainstream that men read it in the school playground when they're picking their daughters up.

Whilst we're at it, why we don't make it legal to pay a girl half your age to grind naked on your lap in a club on the high street whilst your missus sits at home watching X Factor...oh wait, we already have....

In the interests of equality, we could keep the Sun but also The Stun which we could read in front of our sons and on the train and the bus and in work. It's just a human body. No one will mind!

The Stun

It's a picture of a human body. Big deal.

In countries where women casually go topless noone (including kids) seems to care or be bothered. Proof the human body is only offensive if you want it to be.

btw since you want equality, by your own logic should we make it illegal to show a photo of a topless man? Lots of men have breasts.

What do you want anyway? Turn the country into a dictatorship country like China where it's illegal to have a little fun? Lighten up.

I wound ban it. Guess I'm not very liberal! The owner of the paper wouldn't get away with it on his own country. I go to Australia regularly to visit family and people I speak to over there cannot believe that we allow a photo of a topless woman in our 'newspapers'.

I can't work out whether or not the group wants to have page 3 banned? It just says it wants the gov to 'deal with it'. Do they want a similar picture of naked men in the same paper?