radio ad for DV

I'm sorry but I do not agree with that way of thinking someone could say the majority of male violence is towards other males so why waste resources of such and such problem.

It is a problem which many are not even aware of many do not even think DV towards males exist same for those who think it is a joke. It is only 1 ad are you telling me that 1 ad for a group that make around 30% of a problem is to much and a waste of resources because they are male?

I am not saying they should divert all funding to that percentage nor do they. But I think saying 1 ad is not appropriate or responsible is callous beyond belief.

and actually i wouldn't have them full stop. i don;t know what purpose it actually serves

is there any evidence that men need special support and help beyond what is already provided by the criminal justice system? I am in Scotland which i can't imagine is that different to the rest of the UK and all the Scottish Government research has concluded that no special provision for men is needed at this time. Its about using resources appropriately and responsively. We know that the problem of male violence is massive and we know the nature of that violence and control makes it very difficult to leave and we know that is the result of gender inequality. So with that as the context then yes i am saying that it is not appropriate or responsible to have ads for male victims running as part of a wider campaign around domestic abuse.

What's wrong with making an ad with female > male violence it is by no means rare and the vast majority of ads and support goes towards female victims anyway why all the outrage about 1 ad for a problem that does exist although not as much as the opposite and as I have already stated before ad campaigns reflect this.

As to the stiletto heals it's not about being sexy I really don't see anything sexy about it at all it's just shoes with a sharp edge that can be used as a weapon.

Are you radio saying that there should be no ads for male domestic violence victims?

that ad is a bloody disgrace. looks like NI still have a long way to go

i do wonder (and fear) how far those ads go towards encouraging men to make counter allegations / shift the blame etc onto the woman / victim. And basically use the 'men can be victims too' line as another means to exert control

I'm using my own internal logic because I can, I guess. I'm not disagreeing that the substantial majority of DV is perpetrated by males against females. I'd also agree witht the posters further up and with you that it's frustrating, and typical, that the advert using the minority situation, with the 'sexier' situation of the stiletto-wielding woman, is used as an example with the newspaper article, presumably because the poster showing male violence against women is just too ho-hum, dull and typical for them to use.

I just don't think that female violence against men is irrelevant, or such a tiny minority that it's not worth looking at. Nothing about women's lives is not worth looking at to me. Why is that not feminist?

it shouldn't be too difficult to guess who comes up with this shit...

I'm not intending to use Betty Friedan's work in the service of 'women do it too'. I'm intending to use it explaining that my approach to feminism is bringing women's real lives into view, as opposed to the fake lives and feelings that were designed for women, mostly by men as part of capitalism.

Women's real lives, in my view, are sometimes going to include crimes and violence. Which take place in a context of gender discrimination. I don't agree that violence committed by women is not relevant in the feminism section - I would rather it were discussed here, where context is more likely to be discussed as well.

This is what the Scottish Givernment says about it:

Police statistics evidence that year on year there has been an increasing number of men reporting experiencing domestic abuse. 6,165 men reported being abused by a female partner to the police in 2007/08. These figures are small in comparison to the number of incidents where women were the victims and whilst it is recognised that women are more likely to experience repeated abuse and over a longer time, and the severity of the abuse is likely to be greater

Its not just about the numbers you know. This for me is the most significant issue: 'it is recognised that women are more likely to experience repeated abuse and over a longer time, and the severity of the abuse is likely to be greater'

there is also research to suggest that men overstate the threat posed the the violence women perpetrate against them, whilst women do the opposite.

female to male violence is a totally different issue to male violence against women. And whilst i am not saying it is of no importance, i just don't see it as being very relevant in discussions about men's domestic violence towards women

I don't agree. I don't think that any 'simple understanding' of anything is not questionable. Humans are not simple.

I am only quoting from the University of Google here but I would agree with the 'sizable minority' description of female to male DV but the seriousness of the resulting injuries tends to be quite substantially less.

I'm sorry I don't have a quote from TFM tonight. Probably there isn't an exact quote - it's the overall view of the concept of femininity sidelining real women and what they really feel and do, in favour of a marketing concept and commercial version of Freudian theory.

yes, that happens a lot doesn't it

woman twats man with stiletto heel, just because she can

I don't think so