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Do all women deny themselves for their families, or is it just mothers?

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Ormirian · 23/12/2010 18:49

Was anyone else brought up to give the rest of the family the biggest portion of food, if it's running short? To worry more about what they give at christmas than they receive? Is it a woman thing? Or just a mother thing? And is it generational - a hang over from the war and rationing? I wasn't around during rationing but I was brought up by a mother that was.

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snowflake69 · 24/12/2010 10:26

There is no way I would go without and let my husband have it all like in Omrmirians example of the hot dog. I would half it with him but wouldnt have none. I dont like going without so wouldnt put myself in a situation where I ended up with none or not much. I dont think it is selfish, I just like eating!

ProfYaffle · 24/12/2010 08:31

I don't do this, don't know anyone else who does but then when I was growing up it was just me and my Mum so no gender issues there.

If I'm cooking and cock something up I'll give myself the dodgy portion but that's because I want to preserve my image as a good cook Grin

MIL gives women smaller portions than men (she can't quite get over the fact that I consider a portion of beans on toast to be 2 whole slices of bread), she will run herself ragged in the kitchen and have the most uncomfortable chair but she doesn't go short of food.

Ormirian · 24/12/2010 08:14

ROFL!

THat is much more sensible. I can totally understand giving up things for my DC if neccessary but not sure why I do it for DH. I am 90% certain he wouldn't be prepared to do the same.

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ShanahansRevenge · 24/12/2010 08:11

I shock people all the time by not letting DH always take the biggest portion...I will argue till' the cows come home over cake and ice cream!

I was brought up in a house where the men got the biggest serving....I think its because in working class history, men did very physical and dangerous work...mining, steelworking etc and probably needed more.

Women are tougher...and can srvive in crisis easier.

But since DH doesn't work down a mine..bugger him..the pie is MINE!

SarfEasticated · 24/12/2010 08:04

I should have said that my DD is 3. when she is older she might not be quite so lucky!

Very interesting thread though.

Ormirian · 24/12/2010 07:55

Yes, that sort of thing onedge.

Example - we were out christmas shopping and kids were hungry. So we stopped to get hot dogs - I had enough cash for 4 so I went without. When I cooked a lamb casserole the other night there was less than I thought so I served the others and had was was left.

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OnEdge · 23/12/2010 23:03

I do this, if I break an one of the eggs, I will have it, is that the sort of thing you mean? Thought everyone did that.

motherinferior · 23/12/2010 22:51

When I say 'allowed', it was my father's attitude just as much as my mother's, btw. They both considered any woman who verged over the underweight to be an uncontrolled and hideous pig.

motherinferior · 23/12/2010 22:47

My mother certainly gave my father more food than us - he was the only one of us (I have a sister, who became anorexic) allowed to eat guilt-free.

I'm afraid I personally do not illustrate SarfEasticated theories of the mammal female, wrt the nicest bits of food.

SarfEasticated · 23/12/2010 22:42

My grandmother born 1914, always gave the men of the family larger portions. I guess she was brought up that they were the breadwinners/had physical jobs so needed the calories ? makes sense I guess.
I give my DH larger portion because he is hungrier than me, and my DD the best choicest titbits because she is my genetic offspring and I want her to survive. All mammal females do this I'm sure.

kittywise · 23/12/2010 22:19

I don't know, my dp will always say I should have the last of whatever, he will always offer it to me.

scouserabroad · 23/12/2010 22:16

My nan always gave larger portions to the men & boys, because "they need their food" and smaller portions to the women. She does have a quite old-fashioned view of women's place in society though. I think she was quite spoilt (in a nice way!) as a child as she was by far the youngest of her brothers & sisters.

My Mum never did the unequal portions thing, and I was brought up to share food equally, as was my brother.

Could it be that when the woman has prepared the food, she feels guilty if she hasn't made enough (for whatever reason) so she makes sure everyone else has enough first?

tallulah · 23/12/2010 22:06

My grandma always gave my dad and granddad the most food, even when granddad clearly couldn't manage it, which was galling.

Doesn't happen in our house Grin

differentnameforthis · 23/12/2010 21:43

I notice that my friends and acquaintances who lacked for love and affection in their childhood, or lacked materially, are more selfish as adults than those who were showered with love

See, I'd disagree with that. I was starved of love & affection & I am not selfish.

SnowyGonzalez · 23/12/2010 20:54

You are a WONDERFUL person, ISNT!! Grin

I'm trying not to get myself a new (though cheap) handbag in the sales as an extra pressie...one of the pluses of getting your own cheapo gift is you can justify a sales splurge! How shallow am I?

Conchords ROCK! Grin

ISNT · 23/12/2010 20:49

Oh and that dress will look great on you, I can sense it Wink Smile

ISNT · 23/12/2010 20:48

Next year give him a list! Buying your own christmas present isn't the right thing at all!

Excellent choice though (Flight of the Conchords fan Grin)

SnowyGonzalez · 23/12/2010 20:39

Because DH, lovely though he is, is (in his own words) "completely hopeless" at these things, i.e if it weren't for me his family and our kids would get cuddles for Xmas and nothing more! So I am spending£4.99 on a Flight of the Conchords audio book for myself because I think they are fab. And now I've seen that my fave dress is on HALF PRICE SALE I'm going to use the last of my maternity benefit money to treat myself to that.

ISNT · 23/12/2010 20:24

How come you bought your own christmas present snowy?

Ormirian · 23/12/2010 20:22

I have done all the christmas shopping apart from my own - which means I will get lovely gifts because DH will only have had mine to buy. Which will creat more guilt Hmm

I am good at guilt.....

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SnowyGonzalez · 23/12/2010 20:20

I always give my family the best things first, though DH is lovely and will challenge this when he spots it. I definitely do not have a martyr complex. I do it out of love and am happy to do so.

However I also enjoy treats and so, having bought my own (and everyone else's) Xmas gifts, spending by far the least money on my gift, am currently scouring the online sales for a new dress! So if anyone thinks I'm a martyr I'll be a bloody stylish one! Grin

wem · 23/12/2010 20:19

My mum drives me crazy with her 'no, no, you have it'. And clearly she often wants it, but doesn't want to say so, as she doesn't believe anyone when they say they don't want something, because obviously they're lying like she does.

ISNT · 23/12/2010 20:14

Orm that was my gran all over!

She gave the males massive portions, the females much less, and herself hardly anything at all, when there was no reason for it. It used to drive my mum bonkers Grin

southeastastra · 23/12/2010 20:14

what is the average size this week moondog?

Ormirian · 23/12/2010 20:11

ISNT - mum tells me stories about when DB was a toddler and they lived in a CH-free cottage in the Cotswolds and the only heat they had was a massive open-fire, how mum would have a tin of minced-beef bulked up with spuds and veg and she'd serve all of it to my dad and brother, and she's have the left over gravy with bread dipped in it. Because that was the right thing to do. Mind you, she does have a martyr complex, but I suspect there is some truth in it.

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