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Moral Maze radio four tonight: Equality and merit

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TheFeministParent · 08/12/2010 17:35

Examining new proposals for positive discrimination. 8pm, I think.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 11:09

Notice they've taken on the usual "rape trial" tactic of using women to defend male privilege.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 11:05

None of the "anti" side are able to bring themselves to say it's wrong to employ a male teacher over a female one, I notice.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 11:03

That "excessive legislation" guy is doing a pisspoor job IMO, with - is it Matthew Tayloe - taking him to pieces.

and LOL

LOL

fucking

LOL

at the idea that it's equality campaigners who are the ones who make an issue of race/gender!

TheFeministParent · 09/12/2010 10:55

I quite like Michael....lately!

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 10:54

(sorry TFP - she didn't say "men don't have families", but it's always the implication that only women can have them. )

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 10:54

Just that old cliche about women choosing to be underpaid when they choose to have families.

Whereas of course, men don't have families. Hmm

OMG at Michael Portillo defending positive discrimination. :)

TheFeministParent · 09/12/2010 10:46

Eh?

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 10:31

oops - that might have been Melanie thing actually.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 10:29

Claire Fox really is a - and I use this word advisedly - knob.

"Women choose to have families" ALL BY THEMSELVES, APPARENTLY.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/12/2010 10:24

How thick am I that I have never heard of the RSA?

It's only been on 2 minutes and I am already pissed off by Claire Fox. These proposals are about using positive discrimination only if two candidates are equally good, qualified etc - now she's going on as if the idea is to promote women even if they've spent their whole lives living in a bin and reading the Dandy.

TheFeministParent · 09/12/2010 09:42

Bugger, after my initial excitement bedtime went wrong and found myself pacifying a small child with nightmares.....will listen again!!

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claig · 08/12/2010 20:44

Claire Fox for Prime Minister. She is formidable.

claig · 08/12/2010 20:41

Agree with Melanie. They scrapped grammars and destroyed the chances of the poor. They dumbed down education.

claig · 08/12/2010 20:36

Taylor and Portillo have changed the argument. Everybody agrees that there should be no discrimination. The argument is about positive discrimination.

claig · 08/12/2010 20:16

Taylor is wrong. Employer can choose, but shouldn't be forced to choose.

HerBeatitude · 08/12/2010 20:06

On now

claig · 08/12/2010 20:04

oh God, Matthew Taylor, rarely agree with him

claig · 08/12/2010 19:04

Excellent thanks for that. I must admit that I do often find myself in agreement with Claire Fox, even though she used to be a Marxist and may still be one, I'm not sure.
Should be interesting.

EatingAngelPie · 08/12/2010 18:56

interesting nws on the narrowing of the pay gap though. i wonder what the main driver of that is...

sethstarkaddersmum · 08/12/2010 18:51

suspect it will have that woman from the Institute of Ideas on it and result in feminist enragement....

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