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Anti Feminist Bingo!!

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TheFeministParent · 23/11/2010 17:19

Elephants had this idea!!

So I'll start

"we're not a homogeneous mass..."
"I don't like to be too narrow..."

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scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 23:27

dittany only you know your own social constructs and values.and if you perceive anti feminism as widespread that's your lived experience

i had never encountered term anti feminism til mn never heard in rl

scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 23:26

thats a non answer,all hail to C&P skills though

mathanxiety · 25/11/2010 23:24

"as i said i struggle with the all women are oppressed but many dont know it hypothesis

esp the so called intelligentsia who can see the oppressed masses and jsut need them to listen up and rise up

this insidious notion of a clever few with enlightenment, and masses of women in denial is really distatesful"

SM -- Here is what you're suggesting:
(1) feminists are a clever few, an intelligentsia clique

(2) women are not being oppressed, it's just the clever few riling them up about so-called oppression

(3) oppression is something invented by the feminists for some nefarious purpose of their own

yeah yeah, I c&p'd.

dittany · 25/11/2010 23:19

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scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 23:16

i solely derailed thread did i?what compelled and coerced you all to post. manipulated and steered responses

so how come elsewhere on mn,thread go on tangents and move on from op etc and thats ok?

happens here,and its a big whoop di doop

dittany · 25/11/2010 23:15

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scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 23:12

yes it does and it obstructs flow.as does derailer

frequent use of such terms,serves to propagate an orthodoxy with no room for anything else this creates a false bluster

wukter · 25/11/2010 23:11

The only point you have made SM is that the experiences of women in the UK and Somalia are different. Well, yes. Generally you will find that however bad things are for men in any society they are a notch lower for women. Maybe not you. There will always be exceptions when you are talking about a non-homogenous mass of 3 billion+ extant now, and the billions gone before. But overall the stance holds up.

dittany · 25/11/2010 23:10

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earwicga · 25/11/2010 23:08

sm - I didn't mean to say you were 'antifeminist' by saying you were derailing (which you were). I don't use the term 'antifeminist' - I think it's pointless and it does get used as a default term if you disagree with someone.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 23:05

of course it is exclusionary to assume derailer/antifeminist.hence other people mn posts about why people dont post on feminist topic

earwicga · 25/11/2010 23:05

Completely missed that comment Jess! Sorry.

JessinAvalon · 25/11/2010 23:04

Earwicga - that's the report I linked to above.

earwicga · 25/11/2010 23:02

'I do think this board is too quick to shout antifeminist just because there is a challenge on a feminist status quo. I have said this many times before.'

I agree.

Jess & SM

The UK coalition came to the same conclusion about UK women and girls in a report issued today - www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/crime/call-end-violence-women-girls/vawg-paper?view=Binary

claig · 25/11/2010 23:01

This is what scottishmummy said

'isnt it ironic to call other women names like antifeminist and snigger about them and their pov.whilst bemoaning the misunderstood nature of feminism and name calling of feminists

so y'all dont mind bandying antifeminist about when is to another person,not self naturally

ok to name call then?'

I hadn't thought of this thread in those terms, but I can understand sm's point that there is a danger of creating an in-group and excluding other women as being anti-feminists if they disagree with some of the bingo items. Is this excluding women who could join and agree with feminism?

JessinAvalon · 25/11/2010 22:57

ScottishMummy - re: your post at 22:49. Are you saying that women aren't oppressed or they are? Sorry if I'm being dim but I'm not clear whether you believe this to be the case from your previous posts.

LeninGrad · 25/11/2010 22:57

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LadyBlaBlah · 25/11/2010 22:57

You have missed somethng Jessin Wink

JessinAvalon · 25/11/2010 22:56

I haven't seen the word anti-feminist on this thread but I might have missed something.

All I have seen are people asking SM to clarify her points of view. Again, I might be wrong but that's how it reads so far.

LadyBlaBlah · 25/11/2010 22:54

Dittany, I don't see the two things as mutually exclusive

Of course, the desired outcome is to challenge and ultimately derail patriarchy, but surely the way in which this is done has to be debated. Debating it does not mean devaluing it, in fact, it should be the opposite, it should improve it.

I do think this board is too quick to shout antifeminist just because there is a challenge on a feminist status quo. I have said this many times before.

JessinAvalon · 25/11/2010 22:52

Yes, that was a x post.

I didn't understand your post at 22:49.

JessinAvalon · 25/11/2010 22:51

Sorry, SM, I don't understand what you're saying.

scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 22:51

read answer jess

scottishmummy · 25/11/2010 22:51

if you want a label yopu apply it.labels are for jumpers imo.dont drip dry etc

JessinAvalon · 25/11/2010 22:50

My question was to ScottishMummy. I'd be interested to know what she thinks on the UN's stance and their setting up of CEDAW.

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