Anti Feminist Bingo!!

interesting sakura - you know research showed that men talk more than women? they did a study where they asembled a random groupof strangers, ostensily for a different experiment, left them waiting together...the male experimentees talked more....

:o wukter

Have we had "hormonal"?

"You can't get a man"

And bonus point for any comparison with female animals: hens, cows, geese etc

apparently there is a "thing" called 'patriarchal reversal' whereby women are actually acused of being and doing certain things when hard facts and evidence prove it is actually men who do those things as a group. Total projection.

A bit like black people using the "n word", Leningrad. I'm sorry, but I still can't stand it, even when it's "not my business" to stand it or not to. There are plenty of traitors within any group, whose use of a co-opted word is suspect.

mathanxiety, did you mean those phrases as antifeminist or as comebacks to anti-feminist comments? They work either way, which is particularly great because it's so infuriating to have something repeated back to you (viz toddlers). It would be great to provoke a meltdown in someone who a moment before was accusing you of being hysterical or emotional! . As for whether that then lays a woman open to the charge of being patronising - well, such an abrupt change of insult (in this hypothetical argument, from emotional/embittered/hysterical to patronising) is a mark of desperation and not really being sure what one's arguing about (not actually having an argument, just attacking). Prejudice proven.

"Feminists are smug and patronise other by women by insisting they are oppressed when they clearly aren't. Feminists think anyone who doesn't agree with them is stupid."

(Often the people who say this sort of thing think pole dancing is empowering.)

You want all women to stop shaving their legs.

No, in an equal fair and just society both men and women would just shave one leg each.

You plank.

Yes, I agree Lenin, that's a good idea. It doesn't work, does it.

" you've got nothing to complain about, women live longer "

Well, we do if we're not murdered by our spouse first; or not dead from anorexia or from complications under the cosmetic surgeon's knife (in places like the U.S, where they're not bothering to record the death toll, coz it ain't that important) , or childbirth; or not aborted because we're female...etc etc

"men don't get to choose ; we just have to work"

feminism is not about choice, as in women have the choice whether or not to become members of a subordinate class; they don't and feminism is about liberation

'bitter'
'you clearly had a tragic experience..'
'you're projecting, Mathanxiety'

"Feminists are nothing but witch-hunters" [an interesting one that comes up a lot on here]

"in the days when all women"

Sorry.

Ok I'm a serial Feminist board lurker. I have always considered myself to be a feminist and have even read stuff and done courses. However, I have to say I have learnt more on these boards. Thank you all.

Now, after the eulogy. And in the interests of giving good answers to stupid arguments.

Today's story in my Mexican newspaper: "One in four men think that women are raped because of what they wear or how they behave".

My comment:
Because obviously if we all went around in burquas all day without saying a word there would be no more rapes.

Or:
Because rape is so clearly a new phenomenon. No women were raped back in the days that all wore long floor length frocks and wimples then?

Sorry, am not ignoring any further discussion, but have got to go to bed.

TheFeministParent and Elephants, thank you for starting a good discussion.

Yes and seeing as how she's implacably opposed to our cause, surely the logical thing would be to shut up and let us go and ruin it without warning us that that's what we're doing?

Yes, I find that position very ironic. What you're all doing is pointless/waste of time/pathetic/won't achieve anything/won't help your cause.

The irony of someone spending their time telling others that they are getting wound up about a pointless subject. If it was that pointless, they wouldn't feel the need to comment on it or belittle it, surely!

Ah yes I remember him.

It's like Daftpunk on that Reclaim the Night thread. "Don't go! You're all wasting your time! It's just a stupid waste of time, stop it!"

Why so passionate about other people's activity? No-one's demanding that YOU write to your counsellor or go marching. Why spend time telling other people they're wasting their time by doing so?

Tonight I was just called "The Feminist" in the context of "I warned you about The Feminist, mate" from a guy on Facebook to another guy*, when I commented on their forthcoming visit to Hooters in Cardiff.

*Said guy had asked if I wanted to go out sometime and offered to take me along to Hooters because - you never know! - I might enjoy it!

I thought not!

Re: Stacey - there was a troll on the Hooters thread who said this repeatedly.

Apparently e-mailing councillors, starting a petition, objecting to the licence application, issuing statements to the local press, lobbying the police who could appeal the licence decision and lobbying Marks and Spencer (the leaseholders) wasn't the right way to go about it.

He didn't ever say what the right way was, mind you!

Have we had "jealous" yet?

Fat? Green eyed monster? Rabid crone? Hag? Nag?

Just a small selection of things that I've been called in the press over the Hooters thing by people who have never seen or spoken to me!

What possible "means" can the concern trolls be objecting to?

I mnean, it's not as if feminists are sending suicide bombers out to acheive their aims is it?

"I'm not a feminist but...." [reels off list of feminist ideals]

"I wouldn't call myself a feminist...."

"I don't disagree with your aims but I disagree with your means."

Posted by concern trolls Concern trolls

Ooh ooh

"Give us some statistics then to prove it" and...when you do...:

"Your statistics are biased/rubbish/don't prove anything"

I HATE the word misandry! my hatred of misogyny and my hatred of bad english come together to create the perfect storm!