So, are you attracted to 'feminist nightmare' blokes? If so, does it annoy or amuse you?

What do people think of <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=celebritycellphonenumber.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jared-leto.jpg&imgrefurl=celebritycellphonenumber.com/actor/jared-leto/&usg=__o3kCdCpcCsFe4W0o528pqkv87w4=&h=400&w=300&sz=26&hl=en&start=0&sig2=-he_kJMlq-y-KW-URlKTXA&zoom=1&tbnid=teFG_ca8qZWdNM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=97&ei=nO7dTKGAINmAhAeq7sHTDA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djared%2Bleto%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D544%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=224&vpy=42&dur=226&hovh=259&hovw=194&tx=124&ty=159&oei=nO7dTKGAINmAhAeq7sHTDA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">him I have loved him since I was about 15, along with Blair Underwood and Dana Ashbrooke. Still love him now, despite the okish band, my so called life will always be Jared Leto land.

Ohhh isn't JRM the one who was the coach in Bend it Like Beckham? Slightly dodgy teeth?

I do admire your separation of shagging and lurve SGB. I would behave much more like that, in an ideal world.

I don't think PG is good-looking either, he is handsomeish but warty and a little like an acne-pocked dumpling.

Right everybody go watch Velvet Goldmine and have a wibble over Jonathan Rhys Myers...

And I letched over Gene Hunt too. Partly because, just as the whole Gene Genie thing started to take off, Philip Glenister was doing the bedtime stories for the week on CBeebies, which made this total 'Bastard with a tender streak' fantasy possible. (Have no idea if Glenister had in fact recorded the bedtime stories before Life On Mars and some mischevious scheduler thought, 'Oh give the bored housewives a treat' or what).
And I have had a few great shags with men who have not exactly been feminist friendly and indeed exaggerated their sexism as a kind of pulling ritual - but I wouldn't have lived with any of them.

While much of what you say is true, Sakura, Gene Hunt is no George Clooney, so I'm not sure that stands up.

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I like men in eyeliner too...
I also think arguing and sexual attraction go together...

I think women so rarely get to see really good looking men on TV that when one does pop up (in whatever role) they're going to start drooling over him.

Compare that to the constant stream of images of sexy young women that men get.

I mean women get sacked from the BBC if they look too old but they keep the old male codgers on until they're in they're dotage

Dobbin is about as wishy washy as you can get.

I like promiscuous and androgynous as well. Russell Brand certainly doesn't count as he talks about his knob far too much to be adrogynous. I like men in eyeliner. In fact, if someone can find me a sarcastic, dark haired, blue eyed, man in eyeliner I will throw DP over like a shot

Oh yes I agree on the politics thing. I asked my dp about the details of the American mid-terms. He actually bullshitted for about 5 minutes before he admitted he had no clue. That is such a Man thing to do, bullshit on topics you have no clue about. If dp asked me a question and I didn't know the answer, I would say so and direct him to google.

I am perfectly capable of googling my own answers, when dp doesn't pretend to have them for some bizarre reason.

I like a challenge My DH is definitely not a bastard- he does housework, he does childcare...but he has definite ideas that are For example, he doesn't like books where women are the main character, but he owns Ellen MacArthur's book about her sailing round the world, and he has a (grudging!) respect for her. He completely consents to the fact that I am more intelligent than him (well, goes without saying ), but still will argue with me about politics/ current affairs etc and think he is right, even though his argument doesn't stand up.

My last BF before DH was lovely, but a bit...wishy-washy. I am a strong women, and need a strong man to be my template. I felt my last BF allowed me to be in charge of everything, which was wearing, tbh. I ended up feeling more like his mother than his partner.

Thats a good quote eam, I'd give anything to be bossed about(well for a bit). I'm sick of being the one responsible, surely I'm still a child .

Actually could well tie in to certain proclivities lol.

Nah he seems good now, when presumably in the show he is rushing around beating up criminals and wotnot. But if he was sitting on the sofa farting, watching snooker and clicking his fingers when he needed more beer, you'd soon wish him back in the past.

I can't see him in that light anyway, I remember him as Dobbin in Vanity Fair where he was about as far from Gene Hunt as it's possible to get.

Nope. Growing up had ample opportunity to observe how very downtrodden my mother was with her own feminist nightmare (oh yes, my delightful father, now moaning that he should be pitied for no longer being the bee's knees) and decided aged 12 never, ever to fall into same trap. Thank god for reinforcement from compulsory literature reading list in French school system at the time- Therese Raquin, Une Vie, Mme Bovary, that convinced that I'd rather be alone and single for ever than end up with a bastard.

EAM!

Restful! That's it...if Gene would just be here for a few hours of an evening and chuck his weight about a bit, I could face each new day with a fresh perspective!

FMGS - jyaby posted this quote from Cold Comfort Farm the older day, yours reminded me:

Like all really strong-minded women, on whom everybody flops, she adored being bossed about. It was so restful.

God knows why he would say that btw Lady he's a very buttoned up type, doesn't do sharing feelings. I often feel I don't know him, but they say you should take notice of actions, not feelings/words. He has rarely been less than kind tbh, he acts in a non misogynistic way, so god knows.

God Gene Hunt....droooooooool.

I think personally...that I am a bolshy woman who doesn't let anyone boss her around...man or woman...and so it's necassary for me to fancy men like Gene in order to have some relief from the effort of being constantly rock about things which women are traditionally...not rock about.

Yes that's true loud, actually in my revised history, should time travel be invented, without negating the creation of my children (very specific daydream there) I would be a spinster with many books and cats. I doubt I will live to retirement age, this is all I have .

JoolyJoo my dp actually said to me once that he was a misogynist . Honestly I wish this section had been around at that time, I would have flamed him to kingdom come.

Thing is though, in his thoughts and actions he is not a misogynist at all. Maybe it's ingrained in boys at a certain age that Women are the enemy .

I honestly truly widh I was a Lesbian.

I love the Gene Hunt character, but wouldn't stand for sexism in my own partner (beyond a tongue-in-cheek jokiness).

I think the reason that the Gene Hunt archetype is appealing is that it chimes with the understandable fantasy that sexist men are at core big softies who will actually act with integrity. We know that in reality this is not the case, but we would love to dream that it could all turn around with the love of a good woman.

If any real life man uttered that kind of shite, it would merely be the tip of a very ugly iceberg, but the television character fits with our desire to believe that people can be redeemed.