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If you were raped would you report it?

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darleneconnor · 08/11/2010 20:07

A topical question.

I didn't in the past because I was in denial.

For the sake of my privacy I still wouldn't now. It'd make me feel so guilty leaving someone to go free and maybe do it again but psychologically I coudln't cope with a court case and all that goes with it.
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earwicga · 11/11/2010 22:00

backintraining - handy to get your professional perspective.

Why aren't the right people doing the job now? Is it lack of interest/training/female officers or other things?

Do procedures laid down by up above make sense and are not followed or should procedures be changed?

diddl · 11/11/2010 20:34

jennieflower

That is just shocking.

I mean, honest to God, when that sort of thing happens, is there any wonder that some (most?) women say nothing.

Mistaken identity bloody fucking hell.

And community service when drugging was involved.

backintraining · 11/11/2010 20:13

I am a police officer (female) and have followed this thread with interest, also posting a bit earlier on. I have worked in this field for over 5 years (mainly, and still specialising, in child abuse investigation, but also dealing with the initial rape victims before our department remit changed recently). I would be happy to answer any questions (if I can) or speak to anyone about any personal experiences. I'm not here to "fly the flag" for the police and say we are all brillint - far from it hearing some of these stories, but I like to think that things are changing and this type of investigation is getting a kick up the backside! Conviction rates are shocking but like I said earlier, I firmly believe it is the treatment of the complainant (male or female) from the off which can determine how an investigation is to go - that is something which I don't feel is hard to combat, the right people need to be doing the job.

Vickiw1 · 11/11/2010 16:44

Would add that any woman wishing to change the culture into one where rape is taken more seriously should join a group like Object that campaign against lads mags and pro rape culture. They have changed the law on lap dancing clubs, prosecuting men using prostitutes and picket supermarkets selling porn. Give them your support and fight back.

Fortheverylasttime · 11/11/2010 16:40

Leningrad, I got here via your link. How do I get here from the mumsnt index page?

It wouldn't have mattered to me what the police did. As far as I am concerned, it didn't happen.

MABS · 11/11/2010 16:39

I was raped a long time ago, it was reported. I can honestly say the investigation was almost worse than the rape itself :( no, he was never caught even tho there was cctv.

darleneconnor · 11/11/2010 15:45

here is a link to the fawcett society's current rape campaign.

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darleneconnor · 11/11/2010 15:40

maybe Mumsnet could get someone from the police to come on here for a chat to see if this could be viable?

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LeninGrad · 11/11/2010 15:37

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darleneconnor · 11/11/2010 15:36

I thought these rape stats for different countries might be relevant here. www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

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stubbornhubby · 11/11/2010 15:34

noplato's list would have to be kept by the police, I think. If any other organisation kept such a list I think it would be vulnerable to data protection act - men would be able to demand to see what information was held about themselves.

i think it is a very, very good idea.

many rapists who get away with it once no doubt do it again with the same MO. If the cases could be connected quickly they could be caught.

Look at that taxi-driver Warboys, he had possibly 100s of victims, almost all of whome didn't report it, any single victim making a report was very unlikely to lead to a prosecution (it was late night pick ups, he looked for women who had been drinking, in addition he drugged them, so evidence hazy,identification was difficult/impossible all the normal problems) but as soon as a few victims did report it, and the police then realised that they had a serial rapist on their hands, they caught him quite quickly.

and then when women realised they WEREN'T the only victim, many many more were able to came forward.

a cross-reference list of allegations, a secure one, would have caught him,

PLATO'S LIST

This should be a Mumsnet Campaign.

ISNT · 11/11/2010 15:18

The police should keep a list surely, rather than turning women away and "no criming" their attacks. this should all be happening Confused

jennieflower your story is shocking.

darleneconnor · 11/11/2010 15:15

here is an article about a 'rape list' but it sounds like it was just some scribblings on a bathroom wall and was never collated or used for any official purpose. Sad

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darleneconnor · 11/11/2010 15:05

I think nonplato 's idea of a list like they have in some places in America is a great idea. I would definately want to put what I know onto some kind of list/database. I dont feel likeI'll ever get 'closure' until I've done something like that.

Libel is only an issue if it is a lie and the man can prove she is lying so I dont see how that is much of a barrier.

Do you think if we put up identifying details here the posts will get pulled? Sad

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sethstarkaddersmum · 11/11/2010 15:02

'he mistook her for his girlfriend'
'he was from a foreign country and didn't understand the word 'no''

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mathanxiety · 11/11/2010 15:00
ElephantsAndMiasmas · 11/11/2010 14:57

jennie - how on earth did they believe that? So sorry for what happened to you, and indeed everyone on this thread. :(

LeninGrad · 11/11/2010 14:52

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Fortheverylasttime · 11/11/2010 14:39

Absolutely not. From the moment it started I 100% knew it would go no further. 24 hours before that I would have said yes, so you can't know if you haven't been there.

(9 Nov 2007)

jennieflower · 11/11/2010 14:37

Never again!

I was also raped, 11 years ago. My attackers case went to court and he pleaded not guilty on the grounds of mistaken identity, he allegedly mistook me for his girlfriend. He admitted to drugging me to a state of unconsciousness just before the attack though and got a few hours of community service for that. He was found not guilty of the attack. Even as I type this I'm aware of how ridiculous that sounds.

Fucking bastard, he ruined my life, everybody sees the not guilty verdict and assumes I made it all up, even though he admitted to drugging me and having sex with me while I was out of it.

JohFlow · 11/11/2010 14:19

I used to work with children/young people who had been sexually abused. It is not an easy decision and many respects it is a very personal one. I was fortunate to be pastoral support a young lady that reported. It was a very drawn-out process (two years) before a 14 year conviction was brought. The process was extremely unsettling for her and she needed emotional support(and psychological intervention) along the way. I think it takes real 'balls' to re-visit what happened and to detail that to others. But I can also say that the pay out if they are convicted is massive. Good luck with any decisions.

Mum2Luke · 11/11/2010 14:04

undertheboredwalk Mon 08-Nov-10 20:12:25
No I wouldn't. I was raped 10yrs ago, I reported it and was put through hell and it didn't even get to court. No way would I put myself through that again.

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I was raped when I was 17 and ended up pregnant (which I terminated), I didn't report it at the time as I was so shocked and upset. I didn't even tell my parents who would have probably castrated the guy if they ever saw him!

I'm, happy, married and with 3 wonderful kids (the eldest kid being 20).

FlameGrilledMama · 11/11/2010 13:52

I also missed your last post I have just read it now thank you.

FlameGrilledMama · 11/11/2010 13:44

Thanks lenin that is a disgusting figure, and it is shameful that rape victims cannot feel sucure and supported enough to report Angry

LeninGrad · 11/11/2010 13:38

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