New N-Dubz song- views on women

While we're on this subject can I mention Strickland Banks (?) and the singles Stay Too Long and She Said.

Stay Too Long he sings about having a girlfriend, not bothering to answer his phone to her when he's out with his mates, meeting another girl and taking her to a hotel.

In She Said the girl he met falls in love with him and when he wants nothing to do with her falsely accuses him of rape. It annoys me so much when the statistics about real rape cases and the number of men who actually get prosecuted are so dire and he uses this as saying 'If women can't get what they want then they make this up'

I'm not an N-Dubz fan at all, but it isn't just them to blame. I'd say that N-Dubs are just very much of his age and the pandering, quasi-sexiest lyrics are to be found in many popular songs.

Do not even get me started on the crimes of current music videos!!!

I'm only 26, but from a young age I realised what a load of balls music like that was. I've always favoured alternative music like L7, Ani Di Franco, Hole etc.

However, I do help out with a local youth group and can see how influenced the teens are by N-Dubs and that sort of crap.

:(

I think there are many social circles where one is treated like a pariah for the crime of liking n-dubs :P

or maybe it's the way we watched our mothers try to change the world, work themselves into the ground and still fail to have equal pay that has made my generation decide "Fuck it, the easiest way to have an affluent life really is to stay thin and give good head"

When I was a teenager in the 70s most of the young women I mixed with were going to change the world (or so we thought!), Pleasing the boys wasnt our first priority. I think it is the media who have persuaded young women they are here just to please boys.

You are, in MANY circles, treated as a social pariah if you say things like "Will you stop staring at my breast, please?" or "He's not babysitting at all, he's caring for his own children" or "Why on Earth would I kiss you to get their attention? I'm not gay and anyone who finds two 17 year olds faux-snogging on a dancefloor to be a turn on is not someone I want anywhere near me!"

These circles tend to be young, yes, but I'm not sure if it's culturally the norm for the generation or simply a result of inexperience. It was like this when I was 17, but we all grew up.

meant to say do all young women have to go along with men nowadays!

I cant believe that young women dont have a problem with this type of shit. What is wrong with them! It makes me so fucking mad. I am 50 years old and am swearing online, my God!!!!!! I am so enraged. I could shake that idiotic 'female' by the throat. Do all young women just have to go along with me nowadays!

Their songs are catchy....

Would now be a bad time to tell everyone that me and my brother went to see them earlier this year.

"What do you call a girl with 2 cunts? N-Dubz"

That was a 'joke' I read on another website. The sentiment seems to sum them up quite well, IMO.

A lot of modern middle-of-the-road rap and soul music has that insipid lyric base. Doesn't give youths much to be inspired by, but they are still taken in by it all.

See that goes back to that make up thread, where so many men claim not to notice what women look like - it's because they're utterly unaware of the effort that has gone into looking naturally beautiful as if you're not wearing make up and having your hair fall in exactly the right way by blow-drying it correctly (have never managed to master that art, hey ho).

"Her hair falls perfectly without her trying"

Nah mate, it looks a state without trying!

That's dedication BertieBotts! The Bruno Mars song really pisses me off as it's all about the way the woman looks. Her face etc.

Right, just because apparently I have nothing better to do (!) I've just gone through all of the songs in the top 10 and here are my comments on the relevant ones.

1. Rihanna "Only Girl (In The World)" - Lots of sexual puns; unhealthy relationship obsession-type model.

1. Cee Lo Green "Forget You" (Charmingly titled 'fuck you' in non edited version) - Saying his ex was a gold digger and "fuck you" to both her and her new partner. (Oh and he'd still be with her if he was rich as clearly that's all it's about)

1. Mike Posner "Cooler Than Me" - "If I could write you a song to make you fall in love I would already have you...I used up all of my tricks" - niice

1. The Wanted "Heart Vacancy" - You don't want me back, but you DO REALLY. So I shall stalk and harrass you until you give in.

10. Tinie Tempah "Written in the Stars" - Not a lot to comment on really, although some of his other songs are pretty 'eurgh' but " I got more hits than a disciplined child" - WTF?

There is only one song in the top 10 (3. Bruno Mars "Just the Way You Are (Amazing)") which is actually promoting any kind of good male/female relationship model, IMO.

Yes Bertie i do remember seeing that episode the guy wasn't happy at all they really went for him.

i saw that bertie, very funny.

i cant stand rihanna either.

Although did anyone see N-Dubz on buzzcocks a while back? It was brilliant, he got the piss ripped out of him

yup, one of the worst culprits is Rihanna. I can't listen to her anymore.

A lot of the songs in the charts are like this though, aren't they? I spend more time changing the station through sheer irritation when I ever bother to put the radio on!

that song is woeful. it really is. sadly there are some young girls that really do believe that is their lot in life.

I def have that impression too Herbeatitude!

Why do I get the impression that that young man would be the most god-awful fuck?

They really are Posie!

They are twats aren't they? Another song, the single, has the bloke talking about a woman waiting at home and the girl wants a man to be the boss....the utmost fuckwittery.