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"no rights to women" posters

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ullainga · 31/10/2010 10:13

was just reading an article about "anti-feminist meeting" in Switzerland here and stumbled on this historical poster gallery about why women should not get the right to vote here. Apparently they would neglect their child-rearing duties then. quite fascinating.

Do you know any similar pages? Would be interesting to remind ourselves how things were not so long ago..

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 01/11/2010 12:47

ah, remember that?

Me neither.

He means back to normal in the same way that most of the men in Pleasantville wanted things to go "back to normal". Dinner on the table, kids looked after by a woman, no arguments because he is right because of the cock, and no divorce so he has no obligation to be a decent person because she is trapped.

That kind of normal, another day in the rampant patriarchy normal.

vesuvia · 01/11/2010 12:32

Perhaps "back to normal" means returning to the time when men and women lived in "true equality"?

ISNT · 01/11/2010 12:18

I am also intrigued by what things getting "back to normal" would entail...

vesuvia · 01/11/2010 12:02

ullainga wrote "I think the guy you quoted was actually Swedish."

Agreed, but I think his nationality is the least of our problems.

ullainga · 01/11/2010 11:57

well, I don't think the men attending this conference actually support taking away voting rights, I just saw the link when i was reading the article. And I think the guy you quoted was actually Swedish.

But the funny thing is, even though I don't have the statistics, I bet that in more feminist countries like Sweden the fathers have significantly better chances to be involved in their childrens' lives than in countries like Switzerland, where father's role is to bring home the bacon and that's it. Of course the children will remain with mum in case of divorce asn the father would have no idea what to do with them anyway. As far as I know, joint custody is still very recent and rare in Switzerland (the mother used to get sole custody by default, unless she had some serious issues), even though totally normal and common in Scandinavia.

I would like to know though what "back to normal" according to him means.

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vesuvia · 01/11/2010 11:38

So those Swiss women shouldn't be allowed to vote because it will take them away from their child-caring "duties"? How long does it take to vote there? Last time I voted, it took me less than five minutes.

As the men vote, isn't that effectively saying they feel entitled to neglect their child-caring duties?

The definitions of "anti-feminist" that one of those Swiss men gave are pathetic but disturbing. The article quotes him:

"?A lot of people have the wrong impression about what an antifeminist really is,? ... ?They believe that an antifeminist is a woman-hater. Not at all. An antifeminist is a kind of peacekeeper who wants to return things to normal. As an antifeminist I believe in true equality between a man and a woman.?"

Why does his "true equality" not include voting rights or shared child-care?

The men going to the anti-feminist meetings are being charged 55 dollars each to listen to such gems of wisdom. What a shame that it's 55 dollars their children will never see.

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 01/11/2010 10:47

and by "crap" I mean - badly thought out rather than just "i disagree".

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 01/11/2010 10:47

Thanks for this - those "anti-suffrage" posters are so crap. The idea that women shouldn't vote because they might be momentarily distracted from their infant children. Well - what about the rest of their adult lives when they don't have babies to care for?

Blimey.

Tortington · 31/10/2010 16:35

interesting thanks

sethstarkaddersmummyreturns · 31/10/2010 16:32

those voting posters are really interesting - thanks for the link!

msrisotto · 31/10/2010 16:19

Christ re the anti feminist meeting.

No, I don't know of any.

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