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Lazy partner

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BlairWaldorfsHairband · 19/10/2010 13:48

Don't know where to start, just feel like I need a massive rant. Sorry for yet another thread about housework.

What the hell can I do? We've lived together 6 months or so, I feel like things are slipping out of my grasp. Today it's all come to a head and I am so unhappy (he doesn't know it at the moment).

I will try to keep it short.

He thinks he "tries" and that he is reasonable. Yes, if I ask, things will get done (eventually, or straight away accompanied by sighs). But I really fucking resent having to ask. To think about these things. When HE DOESN'T.

With the big jobs (laundry, hoovering, etc) it's almost simpler. I will say "this needs to be done" and we will do it together if laundry, or the hoovering or cleaning bathroom might get done in a few days. Washing up we alternate and do every 2 days (we both detest it). See above point re: thinking about the jobs.

What gets me is the little things. Putting things away. Especially food rubbish. Other rubbish too (from the post etc). Dirty laundry.

But mainly it's just that he NEVER thinks about these things. And he doesn't understand how I can have these things on my mind for days at a time. I have changed and become more slovenly because it is easier than "nagging". Our flat is cluttered to put it nicely. I don't like what I've become.

We've talked about it so many times. I've told him I feel it's disrespectful to me. He says he is just happier to do things when he wants to do them, and that they will get done. This means that every day there is something left out around the living room or kitchen, a yogurt pot, a glass with dried milk in the bottom, etc. I've told him that it affects how much I want sex with him. (Other issues there though, haha). He promises to do more, to make an effort. If I'm around, he will, like cleaning up after himself when he cooks.

(He used to cook more than me, that's changed lately - what a surprise! He likes it more than me too.)

Anyway. At the weekend he went away for a night with mates. A weight was lifted off my shoulders (don't feel I can do chores when he is around, you see. Makes me resentful). I cleared up, hoovered, did some laundry (that he said he was going to do before he went out). Doesn't seem like much but I wrote down what I had done and included all the little things. (Like "put yogurt pot in bin" or "put dirty towels in laundry basket now there is space".)

He came home, said "It looks really tidy, thanks!" and hasn't lifted a finger to do anything since, except wash up last night when it was his turn. The kitchen is a tip again, laundry needs doing, dirty pants on floor in bedroom.

I could go on but I am sure this is getting boring.

We have tried rotas (didn't work for long because we go away to visit family on weekends fairly often) and separating chores (can't agree; he WON'T clean the bathroom every time and will only take the "nice" chores like hoovering and laundry rather than the ones where you get dirty). Besides, this doesn't address the "small" issues.

I think he is lazy. He plays Call of Duty on the PS3 each night for at least 2 hours.

My latest idea is to put up and shut up for a month and write down EVERYTHING that I do. But then what? He always wriggles out of it.

I've read the Politics of Housework. I'm not sure if he thinks I should do it all (maybe he does, but doesn't realise it) or if he is just really lazy. He calls me nagging too.

I am aware that I'm a cliche :( Just so worried that it will be much, much worse when we have kids. Why is it so damn hard?

I'm so unhappy today :( thanks for reading.

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BlairWaldorfsHairband · 19/10/2010 15:56

Thanks EAM. I felt better getting it out of my system!

It?s a 1 bed flat (so there aren?t really any areas he uses more) and we?re in an area where the rent for such a property is well over £700 (reason to live together!)

The computer game thing, I dunno really :( I like me-time in the evenings too, and usually sit browsing the internet or reading a book, and then after dinner we spend the rest of the evening together. Typical evenings tend not to involve chores though (that?s how stubborn I have become!). A real bone of contention for me is the fact that I do the majority of the food shopping as I work near a supermarket and he doesn?t, and it?s always me that clears up after dinner too (clearing the plates, rinsing everything because we only wash up every other day, tidying the kitchen, putting cooking mess in the bin).

Random thoughts alert:

I feel worried now because I know that I am going to have to bring it up tonight and I don?t know what I?ll say. There?s nothing to say that I haven?t said really!

I keep thinking ?Oh, I could try that!? and then realising I have.

The thing that really gets me, pisses me off immeasurably, is that even if he did 50% of the actual chores, I would still be the one who thinks about it and asks him to do them.

I realised he would never go on a cleaning spree if I went away. It made me wonder why I bother. I feel like there are 2 choices: do it all, feel happy about living in a clean flat but resent him so much that I am constantly simmering with anger; or keep it the same as it is now and just feel down about it all the time and worrying about bringing it up.

Just been typing this in Word and seen marantha?s post. You?re right except I don?t run around doing chores. They just don?t get done because I am so stubborn I think ?well if he won?t share them then fuck it, I won?t do them either?. Seems like he is happy with this. He does laundry when he runs out of clothes, but will either tumble dry everything or leave wet clothes in the machine for a couple of days because loading the machine is the easy bit.

As for moving out, I have considered it, but only in the context of a break up. I know this isn?t how it should be, but I don?t think a lot of women would care as much as I do either. Don?t know really.

I do think he has a sense of entitlement to leisure time and thinks that chores shouldn?t eat into his evenings. I?d like it if we had a system where everything got done before we sat down, not like either of us works late or has a long commute. Maybe I?ll suggest that, and encourage him to think of things that need doing. God ? I?m not his mother! Grrr

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marantha · 19/10/2010 15:27

OK, I am making assumption that you both work here so that chores should be shared equally.
If so, my advice (if NO serious financial commitments have been made, not married or you don't have children) is to move out and live apart.
I'm serious about this.
Sixth months of cohabitation and he's playing on computer game while you run about doing chores.
For goodness sake, if you are not all loved up at this stage WHEN will you be? When the stresses of having children arrive?
You see what helps a couple get through the hard times is the loving bond of good memories they store early on in the relationship.
After just six months, you are not storing these memories cause they do not exist.
Do yourself a favour, move out.
Make any excuse you can think of: you can still be 'boyfriend' and 'girlfriend'.

EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 19/10/2010 14:17

Hi Blair, sorry you're feeling so down.

Tell me, did he look after himself before you moved in together? What was his place like?

But my real burning question is how the fucking fuck do you put up with looking at the back of his head for 2 hours every night while he pretends to be a soldier?

What areas of the house does he use most? Can you try imitating him for a while and leaving all your crap in his way, waiting for him to cook and wash up etc?

Seriously, I think just 6 months into living together it is OUTRAGEOUS that he is so complacent as to treat you like an unpaid skivvy - what are the advantages of living together?