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Okay so after bleating on about this I actually watched porn.....

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PosieParker · 15/09/2010 11:57

I had the sound off as the noises made it seem a lot worse, but the woman looked bored, tired and distant. I almost could bear to watch the men, all aggressive expressions and helping one of the women have one position sex for a lot longer than I would. I found it really non sexy or sexual and completely backed up my opinion that it is pretty vile. Now I only watched about twenty minutes on and off, I had to keep flicking over....but in this time one woman was enduring intercourse and seemed to have to put all of the work in, bouncing up and down.

I cannot fathom how any watches it and enjoys it.

(this was following a conversation with a male friend who says I've never seen on and so blah blah, I agreed to watch one and really wish I hadn't, I am even more solid in my opinion.)

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TheButterflyEffect · 15/09/2010 15:08

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tabouleh · 15/09/2010 15:01

How about Pornland which is I think what was decided for the October book club discussion.

PosieParker · 15/09/2010 14:49

I keep running over her expression in my head, I feel so gutted for her.

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sixpercenttruejedi · 15/09/2010 14:29

They have to look like they're enjoying it, don't they? Your friend sounds like he's not actually engaging in your arguments.
Can't think of a good book of the top of my head but I remember the documentary Hardcore (?I think that's what it's called). It's been mentioned on other threads. It's harrowing. Show it to him and then drag him to the conference. (I'm not him, btw, I'm a she Grin)

PosieParker · 15/09/2010 14:20

I'm hoping to argue about Spa breaks next!!!

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PosieParker · 15/09/2010 14:18

It was one experience I feel I could have done without.

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Iklboo · 15/09/2010 14:11

Tell him to find evidence that the women actually love it, apart from the fake 'oohs' and 'aaahs' (note When Harry Met Sally) and the 'interviews' in his top-shelf magazines.

PosieParker · 15/09/2010 14:08

That was part of the deal! (you're not him are you?) He said that the women in the industry loved sex and looked like they enjoyed it, I said I didn't believe that they could....and that around the corner form someone enjoying it and making a decent living ws someone coerced, feeding a drug habit and around from them is someone forced, then children etc.

Can you suggest a decent book that deals with the feminist and porn? (He had said he would come to the conference if I found evidence that women hated it, but I can't see it happening!!)

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Iklboo · 15/09/2010 14:06

The 'you've never tried it so how can you say you don't like it' only works up to a point. For instance, he's never tried castrating himself with a corned beef tin lid, so how can he say he won't like that Wink
Porn does nowt for me either.

sixpercenttruejedi · 15/09/2010 14:03

The 'you've never seen it, you don't know' argument turned up on the hooters thread and was quickly dismissed. Will your friend accept your aguments more readily now you can say you've seen some? Somehow I doubt it.
Maybe you should suggest he reads a feminist book as you were prepared to watch a porn film then you could both come back to the discussion.