in a nutshell... what are the 3 twilight books about?

Nelix, I've now read interview with the Vampire, The Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned
Loved The Vampire Lestat. Queen of the Damned got a bit silly. But now I love the characters and want to find out what happens to them so I may well read all 11 in the series.
I'm not mad keen on Anne Rice's writing style though. She's a bit waffley.

HE IS A VAMPIRE!!!
the other one is a werewolf, seriously teenagers are NOT that stupid that a book will cause them to be a battered wife, christ!

I was horrified when I first read it. So I read some more to make sure I'd understood it. And then I realised I could write it better than some of the attempts I'd read. And now, well, it's a hobby I guess.

Article from Telegraph re Slash

The first time I stumbled across it I was but once you start reading you get scarily accustomed to it and get a bit addicted to it

Slash is Edward/Seth in Twilight terms. Taking two male characters and writing them as romantically linked.

SPN is Supernatural, an American programme. Now in series 5. About two brothers who hunt demons. And then, well, there's this angel. And he's, well, there's, I mean, he just...

Define slash (and spn) for me please

You must watch SPN. The slash is practically canon.

I haven't read the whole thread in case it spoils things for me .

This time last year I was adamant that they were not for me, but i seem be have been sucked in by the hype and by noticing that friends, who are not normally into that kind of thing either, have loved them.

I finished Twilight last night and am desperately awaiting mugging the postman New Dawn and Eclipse which have been dispatched form Amazon!

Oh I get it now. App the big non-het twilight fanfic thing is Edward/Seth....

Torchwood, woohoo! I never really got into SPN but I have a lot of online friends who love it, and I understand it is rather fertile grounds for the slash writer/fan

Ooh Ten/Rose is het, sort of. I've only written it once though.

SPN mainly but you may find me lurking around Torchwood (Jack/Ianto), Dr Who (Ten/Rose) and Merlin/Arthur.

Het's the opposite of slash. Heterosexual. Slash is broadly split into um slash (m/m) and femslash (f/f).

Gen is general ie non, er, romantic.

Oooooh SOH, which fandom do you write for?

what do het and gen mean??????

Aah, I get you.

I uhm, erm, erm, don't write het. Or gen.

Twilight's one redeeming point is that it's good fanfic fodder.

I prefer Edward/Jacob slash meself. Now THAT is what the books should have been. Screw Bella.

I have only just discovered the concept of fanfic and i am hooked! I just realised i have basically been composing fanfic in my head ever since I started reading

my fave Twilight fanfic is Irritable Grizzly Adams. It;s what the saga should have been, and how it should have been written.

I also love Edward Wallbanger

I have greatly enjoyed Wide Awake, but if you've found the controlling relationship in Twilight questionable, I doubt you'd enjoy this!

What are you reading MM? Is it slash?

Well, as somebody who writes fanfic (NOT twilight!), I'm in no position to judge.

mhh interesting so how do you judge grown women for their obsession to fanfic? Because I have spent the last 2 weeks doingreading nothing else...

I think they are terrible- poorly written, formulaic, tedious dross blah blah etc. I judge grown women for their obsession.

Don't read them, read the fanfic instead. Invariably, better written and much more interesting. Look for anything with an NC-17 tag...

Hi mystic - I agree with you. I think it's patronising when people assume that (especially young female) readers are uncritical and naive when they're obviously not, or can't tell the difference between the bits that are real, like the abuse of women, and the bit's that aren't (unless vampires really are real!). I think loads of the anxiety around Twilight is just an anxiety about whether girls really have brains or not, a debate that is potentially much more damaging than the books themselves!

For me, the subtext of the Twilight series makes them difficult to enjoy. But if other people enjoy them, as they obviously do, then who am I to complain?

Thanks for reminding me!

I agree with your post take that, i am just nor convinced that the majority of twilight readers approach it in the passive, uncritical fashion many seem to assume. After all, we all know vampires don't exist! (or do they....)

At the risk of boring you further, littlewolf, i will have to dsagree. Many generations of readers have adored mr rochester, mr darcy, heathcliff and the rest of them not because of their literary value, but because of the passions and romance their characters and stories evoke. Same as edward today, although i am the first to agree that stephenie meyer is at best an average writwr, so no literary claims there.

I think you need to remember that twilight, like any book, is not read out of context and young women reading it today do so in the context of a cultural environment that increasingly sexualises and commodifies them, not to mention in a very real world where 90% of boys only want to get into their pants. In this sense the twilight world is appealing because it conterbalances all the other messages they are receiving, but is also contextualised as something clearly fictional.

I remember being obsessed with dead poets society at 13- watched it so many times i knew it by heart. At no point did i think that the only way to find my way in the world was to commit suicide.