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So what happened to Mr Darcy and Elizabeth Bennet after they married?

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drosophila · 07/01/2010 23:46

I watched this movie recently and it is something I have always wondered since I first read it as a teenager.

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bran · 18/01/2010 13:10

at pagwatch. Do you really agree or is this a carry over from the other thread?

(I feel warmed and little smug that I'm even recognised enough to be part of an in-joke. )

pagwatch · 18/01/2010 13:04

I agree with Bran

bran · 18/01/2010 13:03

WV I don't think there was anything to see through with Miss Bingly. She was what she appeared to be, a reasonably wealthy young woman who needed to marry as well as possible to keep her status in society. She knew how to behave in society, and she was bitchy when she needed to be to try and deter the man she wanted to marry from marrying someone else. She wasn't like Mr Wickham who was genuinely dishonest and therefore despised by Darcy. I think Darcy just found her a bit tedious and a bit bitchy.

I reckon, after Elizabeth died, Mr Bingley and Jane came to stay to comfort Darcy and help with the children. It would only be natural, if Miss Bingly was still unmarried, that she might be living with her brother and therefore travel to Pemberley with him. Once there she would be helpful and sympathetic. It did say in P&P that both sisters were lively and amusing when in the right company. Darcy would feel that he would never feel love again the way he did with Elizabeth and would gradually notice that Miss Bingley was good company, socially adept and eager to make him happy. Feeling the need to provide a suitable mother for Elizabeth's children, Miss Bingley would seem as good a choice to Darcy as any other woman.

I reckon that she was probably, if not exactly kind and loving, at least a resonable parent to Elizabeth's children because they were also Darcy's. But as they grew older and got cheekier (they took after their mother) she liked them less. She also resented the boy (if there was one) because he was first in line to inherit Pemberley, ahead of her own son. She fulfilled her responsibilities, such as engaging a governess and presenting the daughter (if there was one) to court, but she was always cold and distainful. If they did anything she disapproved of she would call them a hoyden like their mother, but she never said that within Darcy's hearing.

WingedVictory · 17/01/2010 22:24

Bran, I like your version. But do you think Darcy didn't see through her? I imagine it would have taken a lot for Darcy to have unbent himself enough to someone he once saw through and scorned... unless his coldness to her was just arrogance, rather than realising what she was about.

Sorry, I can't remember whether he did see through her. Can anyone refresh me?

*Janeite, could you have uploaded that picture of two of you in the desert background to the same "space" as the Prague picture? I don't remember seeing it when I looked at your pics before. I've never uploaded any of my photos, so can't help technically, sorry!

thesteelfairy · 17/01/2010 15:31

They rowed constantly, I mean it wasn't going to be happily ever after with the way they started out was it? Once the bloom of infatuation wore off, Darcy reverted to his usual snotty self and spent all his time in London with a posh mistress while Lizzie ponced around in the country running Pemberley. They had a few kids, had to so that they got a son to inherit and that was that.

Sorry am a bit off relationships at the moment.

bran · 17/01/2010 15:25

I was a bit of a pessemistic teenager and at the time I imagined that Lizzy died in childbirth within 4 or 5 years of her marriage. Darcy then married Miss Bingley, who was horrible to Lizzy's child/children. The child/children got their own back by ousting her to the dower house the very second that Darcy died, and then they ignored her and only very rarely invited her to the big house.

I can't imagine any other now as I am so used to my one.

janeite · 17/01/2010 15:12

Yes - Prague - was my Christmas present from dp. Disappeared when I took the 'Wimpy Teacher' from my name though and I don't know how to get it back.

WingedVictory · 16/01/2010 21:22

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher, which Old Town Square? One of your earlier photos looked vaguely like Prague, so is it there?

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher · 15/01/2010 21:51

It is the Astronomical Clock in The Old Town Square; dd2 took this somewhat spooky pic of it!

Dumbledoresgirl · 15/01/2010 21:48

Yes, there now. Maybe you lost it when you were namechanging? It looks magical. May I ask what the bottom picture is of? (the one that looks like a gold sundial).

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher · 15/01/2010 21:43

Now where did THAT go? Is it there now?

Dumbledoresgirl · 15/01/2010 21:28

I'm fine thanks. I can't see a profile for you.

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher · 15/01/2010 20:33

Pics on profile now...

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher · 15/01/2010 20:19

Oh it was LOVELY. Thank you. Will try and post a couple of pics on my profile. Hang on...

How are YOU?

expatinscotland · 15/01/2010 20:19

he screwed around, as all poncey twats like him do, gave her syphillis and they both died screaming.

southeastastra · 15/01/2010 20:19

the usual poor bastards

Dumbledoresgirl · 15/01/2010 20:18

How was Prague Janeite?

Bumperlicious · 15/01/2010 20:15

The Bar Sinister is pretty funny, P&P with naughty bits basically!

WingedVictory · 14/01/2010 13:24

What, that the zombies had a go at some of the more annoying characters? I wish Lydia had been munched.

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher · 14/01/2010 09:27

I totally agree re: Charlotte, WingedVictory.

However, I still think JA herself would have been thrilled by the zombies, however cheap the idea may be!

WingedVictory · 13/01/2010 22:23

JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher, yes, the zombie "thing" did preserve, or rework, a bit of the pathos of Charlotte Lucas's position. However, it seems rather cheap to profit from Charlotte's misfortune; she is a character I do feel sorry for. The Keira Knightley film does highlight her plight as well, which was very humanitarian, though rather heavy handed....

MrsvWoolf · 13/01/2010 22:07

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JaneiteIsAWimpyTeacher · 13/01/2010 22:05

Yes Emma as a lesbian = equally ridiculous. Like that Mansfield Park film, which implies a hint of seduction from Mary Crawford towards Fanny. Gah.

Yes - I sniggered at Mr D's balls too. But I loved the whole Charlotte Lucas thing as well.

WingedVictory · 13/01/2010 22:01

I seem to remember that there was an "Emma" sequel as well, and made out that Emma was sexually repressed, remained a virgin and frustrated Knightley until she (Emma) had a lesbian affair that released her.

Was that Emma Tennant, too? If so, I was not impressed with plotting. Jane Austen's novels are all about operating within very narrow parameters (sorry if that sounds too Trekkie), so the "release" and overt lesbianism were outrageous. Apart from the idea that lesbianism is just a sublimation of heterosexual desire.

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies drove me mad, it was so crap. There wasn't even a decent allegory for the plague of zombies - no slavery, no women's subservience, nothing! AAAARGH! Only entertaining thing was when Mr Darcy told Elizabeth his balls were at her disposal. That was the only enteratining thing. Really.

There's a decent sequel called something like Mr Darcy's daughters, in which Elizabeth and Darcy's daughters do a London season and get into scrapes, some of which threaten serious reputational consequences, so working within boundaries, as mentioned above.

nighbynight · 13/01/2010 21:52

FFS! They had a nice boring married life, punctuated by embarrassing episodes with Lizzie's mother.
When her mother got really old, she came and lived with them, and was embarrassing, but very good with the grandchildren.

They both lived to a ripe old age, and had loads of children, one of whom became a Cambridge don, one married an earl, and wrote novels under a pen name, and one emigrated to South Africa.