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Les Miserables read-a-long 2026 | Deuxième Partie (2)

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Pashazade · 23/05/2026 08:24

Welcome to the second thread of the Les Miserables Read-a-long.

I've taken over from AgualusasL0ver in trying to keep us all reading together, but have copied the below over from the first thread.

I'll also be using the Christine Donougher translation (on Kindle) for posting in the main, but it doesn't matter which translation you have, they seem to follow the same breakdown.
It's a bit sprawly in places, some people have entire sections in the appendices, so I've started adding the first line of the chapter to try and lock in exactly where we are for that day, hopefully it helps us all keep together!

The only rules
The plan is to read ONE chapter a day and contribute/follow the thread as you see fit. There are c. 365 chapters, so we plan to take the year to read slowly and really get under the skin. Sometimes we have clustered chapters in past read-a-longs, and people do sometimes read ahead. All fine - but No spoilers until the relevant day.
Notes from previous read-a-longs

  • How you manage one a day is entirely up to you, some people prefer to store them and read all the chapters for the week at once, some read each day.
  • Sometimes these books can go off on a tangent all their own (looking at Mr Tolstoy), stick with it :-)
  • All formats and translations welcome. Sometimes the translation discussions are some of the most interesting conversations.
  • You WILL get behind at some point, but don't worry, just catch up when you can.
  • Tangents, things you discovered down a rabbit hole, articles, pod casts, clips of epic scenes when we get to them all very welcome on the thread.
Spoiler free summary , courtesy of Chat GPT below. Schmoop has book summaries so I will post those at the relevant points. ** Les Misérables is a classic novel by Victor Hugo that explores justice, compassion, and the struggle for dignity in 19th-century France. At its core, the book follows the lives of several interconnected characters from different social classes as they navigate poverty, law, love, and moral choice. Rather than focusing on a single hero or plotline, the novel paints a wide picture of society—showing how personal decisions are shaped by systems like the legal system, economic inequality, and social expectations. Key themes include:
  • Justice vs. mercy — how laws affect people differently, and whether strict punishment leads to fairness
  • Redemption and moral growth — the possibility of change, even after hardship
  • Poverty and inequality — the daily realities of people living on the margins
  • Love and sacrifice — care for others as a powerful force for good
  • Social responsibility — how individual actions impact the wider community
The novel is known for:
  • Deep character development
  • Emotional intensity
  • Philosophical reflections on society and humanity
  • Detailed descriptions of history and everyday life
Overall, Les Misérables is less about a single storyline and more about asking big questions: What does it mean to be a good person? How should society treat its most vulnerable? And can compassion change lives?
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Piggywaspushed · 10/09/2026 19:11

Yes, I know what you mean!

Pashazade · 10/09/2026 19:06

@Piggywaspushed oh that seems entirely likely but I suspect that was as much class snobbery, ie the yokels don’t speak properly, and I don’t want to assault myself by reading it as it was a purity of language thing. 😁
I don’t feel Hugo’s is so much a class thing more a moral thing. although those are possibly synonymous for him? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Hmm not sure I’m expressing myself well there.

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Piggywaspushed · 10/09/2026 18:24

Pashazade · 10/09/2026 09:30

Okay, I genuinely did not expect to enjoy today’s chapter, I thought it would be turgid and boring. It was brilliant, here’s the master writer…..although I’m wondering when the first thesaurus was produced because it feels like he had one at his side! But the use of language, loved it.
I’m fascinated by the idea that “true slang” is somehow evil, I think it’s very telling that this is a French obsession, I cannot imagine an english writer talking about slang in the same way. It’s tribalism at heart, but not a term Hugo would have understood, as we use it, I think? Apparently a tribe of thieves slang is somehow inherently different to a tribe of sailors slang because they are morally corrupt? But the French have always been prickly about their language (hello Académie Française) and how it is used or “polluted”. English appears to have always adopted a more the merrier approach and if a word’s useful we just add it to the dictionary regardless of origin.

I think Hardy got a bit of a snooty reception for his use of dialect?

Pashazade · 10/09/2026 18:23

Yes I’ve just been having an interesting chat with my teenager about the slang they use online. Having regaled him with a few Hugo extracts!

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DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 10/09/2026 15:19

English is such a mongrel language that we can’t really complain about new words being picked up! Much healthier for the language than the Académie Française trying to enforce compliance with old-fashioned vocabulary rules 😄

The evolution of the French view of argot is interesting too - these days it’s used to apply to any kind of slang, much of which is used by the average person in any informal situation, not restricted to a particular category of people (though the younger you are, the more argot you probably use, same as in English I guess!).

Pashazade · 10/09/2026 09:30

Okay, I genuinely did not expect to enjoy today’s chapter, I thought it would be turgid and boring. It was brilliant, here’s the master writer…..although I’m wondering when the first thesaurus was produced because it feels like he had one at his side! But the use of language, loved it.
I’m fascinated by the idea that “true slang” is somehow evil, I think it’s very telling that this is a French obsession, I cannot imagine an english writer talking about slang in the same way. It’s tribalism at heart, but not a term Hugo would have understood, as we use it, I think? Apparently a tribe of thieves slang is somehow inherently different to a tribe of sailors slang because they are morally corrupt? But the French have always been prickly about their language (hello Académie Française) and how it is used or “polluted”. English appears to have always adopted a more the merrier approach and if a word’s useful we just add it to the dictionary regardless of origin.

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DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 09/09/2026 18:02

I hope the next few chapters aren’t too boring…they’re so irrelevant to the plot that they’re in an appendix in my edition! Then again, I loved all the appendices in LOTR (sorry @Piggywaspushed I know you hate it 😆) so I’ll try to get into that mindset…

DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 09/09/2026 18:00

Love that @Waawo !

Interesting stuff about the elephants, thanks for all the info @cassandre and @Pashazade ! Mindboggled at the idea of a ballroom-sized one (there’s a Trump(ety-trump) joke in there somewhere 😂)

Pashazade · 09/09/2026 16:59

But yes imagery with a howdah is pretty consistent across them all.

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Piggywaspushed · 09/09/2026 16:59

Ooh, fascinating. Thanks both.

Pashazade · 09/09/2026 16:58

So it looks like Elephant & Castle is a separate thing entirely named after a pub originally on that site which was named for the cutlers guild who had an elephant on their crest because of the ivory they used for handles.
Parisiennes on the other hand a thing for elephants and there are records for several monumental elephants. It made me think of the Moulin Rouge one which existed a bit later. But there had been a plan for an earlier one than Napoleon’s, big enough to hold a ballroom!

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cassandre · 09/09/2026 16:56

Piggywaspushed · 09/09/2026 16:48

Is there some connection between this Elephant and the Elephant and Castle?

Good question Piggy, I think they're different versions of the same symbol. I went back to wikipedia again, and there's some interesting info (you have to scroll down the page past 'howdah' to 'elephant and castle symbol'. The thing on the elephant's back is apparently a howdah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdah#Elephant_and_castle_symbol

Howdah - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdah#Elephant_and_castle_symbol

cassandre · 09/09/2026 16:51

Cross-posted with you about slang, @Pashazade !

The slang reminds me of Rabelais, an earlier French writer, whose prose is also full of slang terms (necessitating lots of seriously erudite footnotes by scholars of today, which is kind of funny given that in Rabelais' case, so much of this vocabulary is related to pissing, shitting and fucking 😳)

I relied heavily on the English translation today because the building vocabulary was A LOT.

Back on the elephant tangent, I was confused about Hugo saying the elephant was eventually replaced by a giant stovepipe. I then learned that this is Hugo's mocking term for the July Column
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Column

It's hard to believe a father could be as heartless as Thenardier, especially when he has a son like Gavroche.

Btw I enjoyed Hugo's sarcasm at the start of today's chapter, when he explained that old-fashioned 'dungeons' have been replaced by modern 'punishment cells', which just happen to have exactly the same components as... dungeons. That type of satire reminds me of Dickens.

July Column - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Column

Piggywaspushed · 09/09/2026 16:48

Is there some connection between this Elephant and the Elephant and Castle?

cassandre · 09/09/2026 16:42

Ah that's a coincidence @Waawo , I love it when different reads intersect!

I'm just catching up again. I thought Marius' letter (if you can call it a letter? it's more like a philosophical treatise) was far too long, abstract and pompous. But cleary Cosette thought otherwise, ha. I agree that Marius' stalking of Cosette was rather creepy, but I suppose I can forgive him somewhat on the grounds that it's his first experience of love himself. If he were some kind of die-hard rake or Don Juan stalking Cosette, it would be worse. But he and Cosette are equally besotted and equally naive.

Yes, Gavroche is a great character! I was thinking how much I loved his use of slang (and how he's teaching it to his younger brothers). But then in today's chapter, there is so much slang that Hugo has to translate it for his readers in footnotes. And there are even different types of argot: one character speaks classic old-school argot, while another speaks new modern argot. OK, I thought, that's enough slang now. I then realised that the next four chapters are entirely devoted to the topic of ... slang. 😂Oh dear. Hugo is just so Hugo. He's proud of his knowledge of street talk, but he never wears his knowledge lightly. Never mind.

Like you @DuPainDuVinDuFromage I noticed the zoo animals being treated better than the actual children! I couldn't picture the elephant, so I looked it up and found the wikipedia page, which has some good pictures😀https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_of_the_Bastille

Elephant of the Bastille - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_of_the_Bastille

Pashazade · 09/09/2026 16:38

I’m now concerned they’re about to do over Cosette and the old maid……however we have four chapters on slang to get through first, he obviously lost the muse for a bit. 🤣

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Piggywaspushed · 09/09/2026 16:34

How wonderful!
I love things like that.

Waawo · 09/09/2026 14:12

As well as reading Les Mis for the first time (150+ years late), I'm also reading The Kite Runner for the first time (20+ years late) - imagine my tiny moment of joy coming upon this sentence this morning! 😀

Les Miserables read-a-long 2026 |  Deuxième Partie (2)
DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 09/09/2026 11:54

Quite dramatic today, although I’m not as interested in Thénardier and the other baddies as JVJ, Cosette, Marius and Gavroche so the prison escape took longer than I would have liked. The end of the chapter though! Thénardier really is an uncaring, self-centred git (not that we didn’t already know that)!

DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 09/09/2026 04:58

Yes, he’s got a heart of gold, hasn’t he! So poignant that he doesn’t even know they’re his brothers. The description of the elephant was interesting, and Gavroche’s bedding taken from the zoo animals (which are treated better than the street urchins). But oh my god the rats! Terrifying. Really effective as a reminder that for all Gavroche’s cheeriness, his circumstances really are awful.

Piggywaspushed · 08/09/2026 17:37

Pashazade · 08/09/2026 15:54

Gavroche is rapidly moving to be my favourite character. Saving his own brothers without knowing it !!

I need to pay more attention...

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 08/09/2026 17:02

Agreed! He's very likeable.

ÚlldemoShúl · 08/09/2026 16:05

Pashazade · 08/09/2026 15:54

Gavroche is rapidly moving to be my favourite character. Saving his own brothers without knowing it !!

He’s such a great kid. Hope he gets a happy ending.

Pashazade · 08/09/2026 15:54

Gavroche is rapidly moving to be my favourite character. Saving his own brothers without knowing it !!

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DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 08/09/2026 11:52

Yes I think we have to take it in the way it would have been interpreted back then (and also the fact that she clearly loves him back), otherwise it gets very problematic. I’m choosing to enjoy the romance and avoid thinking too much about the dodgy aspects, but I would certainly feel differently if it was a contemporary novel!

Yesterday’s chapter was so sad! Poor little things. And a reminder of how quickly fortunes can change, especially for people with no agency like these kids.