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Les Miserables read-a-long 2026 | Deuxième Partie (2)

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Pashazade · 23/05/2026 08:24

Welcome to the second thread of the Les Miserables Read-a-long.

I've taken over from AgualusasL0ver in trying to keep us all reading together, but have copied the below over from the first thread.

I'll also be using the Christine Donougher translation (on Kindle) for posting in the main, but it doesn't matter which translation you have, they seem to follow the same breakdown.
It's a bit sprawly in places, some people have entire sections in the appendices, so I've started adding the first line of the chapter to try and lock in exactly where we are for that day, hopefully it helps us all keep together!

The only rules
The plan is to read ONE chapter a day and contribute/follow the thread as you see fit. There are c. 365 chapters, so we plan to take the year to read slowly and really get under the skin. Sometimes we have clustered chapters in past read-a-longs, and people do sometimes read ahead. All fine - but No spoilers until the relevant day.
Notes from previous read-a-longs

  • How you manage one a day is entirely up to you, some people prefer to store them and read all the chapters for the week at once, some read each day.
  • Sometimes these books can go off on a tangent all their own (looking at Mr Tolstoy), stick with it :-)
  • All formats and translations welcome. Sometimes the translation discussions are some of the most interesting conversations.
  • You WILL get behind at some point, but don't worry, just catch up when you can.
  • Tangents, things you discovered down a rabbit hole, articles, pod casts, clips of epic scenes when we get to them all very welcome on the thread.
Spoiler free summary , courtesy of Chat GPT below. Schmoop has book summaries so I will post those at the relevant points. ** Les Misérables is a classic novel by Victor Hugo that explores justice, compassion, and the struggle for dignity in 19th-century France. At its core, the book follows the lives of several interconnected characters from different social classes as they navigate poverty, law, love, and moral choice. Rather than focusing on a single hero or plotline, the novel paints a wide picture of society—showing how personal decisions are shaped by systems like the legal system, economic inequality, and social expectations. Key themes include:
  • Justice vs. mercy — how laws affect people differently, and whether strict punishment leads to fairness
  • Redemption and moral growth — the possibility of change, even after hardship
  • Poverty and inequality — the daily realities of people living on the margins
  • Love and sacrifice — care for others as a powerful force for good
  • Social responsibility — how individual actions impact the wider community
The novel is known for:
  • Deep character development
  • Emotional intensity
  • Philosophical reflections on society and humanity
  • Detailed descriptions of history and everyday life
Overall, Les Misérables is less about a single storyline and more about asking big questions: What does it mean to be a good person? How should society treat its most vulnerable? And can compassion change lives?
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Waawo · 15/07/2026 07:17

And as for today's chapter!

AIBU to think potential 'D'P (who hasn't even spoken to me!) shouldn't be getting in a sulk about the wind blowing my dress, is this a red flag?!?!

Waawo · 15/07/2026 07:03

SanFranBear · 14/07/2026 23:26

I couldn't help smiling at the thought of Marius being utterly besotted with 'Ursula's' hankie... and it's actually Jean Valjeans 😁

Although, what alias is he going by to have the initials UF? WAIT - the old man in the convent was Fauchelevent and JvJ was play acting as his brother wasn't he... but U?? Ulysses maybe? Yes, I rather like the sound of Ulysses Fauchelevent - a good, strong name 😃

It's Ultime:

The prioress inspected Jean Valjean. There is no scrutiny like that of a downcast eye.
Then she questioned him. ‘You’re the brother?’
‘Yes, reverend mother,’ replied Fauchelevent.
‘What’s your name?’
Fauchelevent replied, ‘Ultime Fauchelevent.’
He actually had a brother named Ultime, who had died.

SanFranBear · 14/07/2026 23:26

I couldn't help smiling at the thought of Marius being utterly besotted with 'Ursula's' hankie... and it's actually Jean Valjeans 😁

Although, what alias is he going by to have the initials UF? WAIT - the old man in the convent was Fauchelevent and JvJ was play acting as his brother wasn't he... but U?? Ulysses maybe? Yes, I rather like the sound of Ulysses Fauchelevent - a good, strong name 😃

CutFlowers · 12/07/2026 11:30

I assume Jean valjean thinks Marius is some kind of a spy rather than a potential love interest for Cosette. Either way, I can imagine he is not too chuffed by his behaviour.

Pashazade · 12/07/2026 11:03

Im feeling less annoyed with Marius as he appears to be completely love struck rather than a letch….so we shall see.
Just when we thought we were rattling along with the plot we appear to get another diversion on Friday.

Book Six Cont’d…..
Mon 13th June - Ch6 - Captivated (On one of the last days)
Tue 14th - Ch7 - Fortunes of the Letter U When a Subject of Conjecture (Solitariness, detachment from everything)
Weds 15th - Ch8 - Even War Veterans Can Be Happy (Since we have mentioned)
Thurs 16th - Ch9 - Eclipse (We have just seen how Marius discovered)
Book Seven Patron-Minette
Fri 17th - Ch1 - Mines and Miners (Human societies all have what is called)
Sat 18th - Ch2 - The Lowest Depths (There disinterestedness vanishes)
Sun 19th - Ch3 - Babet, Gueulemer, Claquesous and Montparnasse (From 1830 to 1835)

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MissisBee · 11/07/2026 19:39

Leaving the dubious ages to one side, I did find the description of Marius's sudden emotions and resulting behaviour very amusing.

MotherOfCatBoy · 11/07/2026 19:08

If we do allow for the romanticism though, I was quite charmed by the way Marius saw Cosette as if surrounded by a beautiful blue light…

DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 11/07/2026 17:50

I’ve just caught up after a holiday, and agree with the icky feeling about the way Hugo talks about both Cosette and the cleaning lady. Probably not that long ago (the 70s? Maybe even the 80s?) we would have found his descriptions romantic and funny respectively, I guess it’s good to know things have definitely improved! I’ve checked back and Marius was born in 1810 (at least, he was 17 in 1827), so if we’re in 1831 now (I think that’s right?) he’s 21. Not a huge age gap and totally acceptable for the time, but all kinds of wrong these days…if she was, say, 17 it would be fine!

MotherOfCatBoy · 11/07/2026 17:32

The thing I’m wondering though is, why is Valjean out and about on the streets of Paris and not still safely inside Petit Picpus? I get that he might have time off etc but I thought he would still be watching out for Javert? He seems too relaxed!

SanFranBear · 11/07/2026 17:00

I thought Marius was younger - so about 19... he ran off when he was 16 or thereabouts didn't he although many more years may have passed, its not really clear? I'm not disputing the sleaziness of the whole thing no matter his age though as regardless, she's still a child!

I think it's quite sweet that Cosette and Jean Valjean hang out every day, enjoying each other's company and sharing father/daughter time... they appear devoted to each other so hopefully Jean will ensure she's not exploited or treated poorly by Marius? That said, the name of the book is a bit of a giveaway... 😁

MotherOfCatBoy · 10/07/2026 18:53

I was unhappy with the ending of TCOMC (no spoilers for those who haven’t read it but I know many here have) and the younger woman, but I suppose it was kind of realistic (what many a man would do). But Jeez, this is worse. It’s Lolita-like in its manipulative thinking.

I hope we have a lovely story between two young people who are probably about 6 years apart, but I fear the attitude of the middle aged, powerful, married author who had multiple mistresses (at the same time) will intrude. Ugh.

Piggywaspushed · 10/07/2026 14:44

In a fairly recent chapter we were told he was 21. But , who knows, years could have passed!

It is all very unsettling.

Age gaps were very common (see also Bleak House) but give me British Victorian prudishness over this lascivious Male gaze any day.

When discussing Dickens we have sometimes commented on his reductive presentation of women and of girls - but Hugo is in a different league all together! And Hardy at least seemed to rather admire/ pity/ care for women he wrote about.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 10/07/2026 11:19

I agree. It gives me the creeps. I've a DD who is sixteen.

Also, doesn't the friend say that since his housekeeper has a beard, that Marius doesn't have to have one? Ugh.

Pashazade · 10/07/2026 10:31

Yes I’ve recently heard the song To Sir with Love (1967) a couple of times on the radio and it makes my skin crawl! Different times and all that but jeez.

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MotherOfCatBoy · 10/07/2026 10:30

Yes I was raging at that part. She’s 15 FFS leave her alone you twat she’s a CHILD.
God, makes you think about the sheer weight of this shit we have been dealing with for centuries. It’s so embedded.

VikingNorthUtsire · 10/07/2026 10:23

Yeah that whole chapter was creepy AF although probably in line with contemporary thinking.

My translation had a delightful phrase about the frumpy tween version of Cosette being "not yet a person". Obviously once she's pretty and has boobs, she achieves personhood.

Pashazade · 10/07/2026 10:00

So I’m trying to remember how old Marius is right now, given Cosette is only 15!
Hugo also makes me want to punch him and / or throw up
“It is a virgin with a woman’s gaze”, I mean wtf! To be fair he does capture that overnight shift that teenagers can go through when you haven’t seen them for a while and the shift from child to young adult is quite surprising but yuck!
Plus poor Mabeuf’s housekeeper can’t win…..”The poor old dear was a virgin,…..she had never been able to progress beyond her cat”, so reaching old age and being a virgin is to be pitied but if she’d randomly slept with someone when she was younger you can bet he’d be calling her all sorts of names. Ugggh
I’ve just caught up….Marius is now just a bit odd, if kindly.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 06/07/2026 18:42

I've read as far as tomorrow's chapter.
The last line made me laugh.

Piggywaspushed · 05/07/2026 19:52

I'm pretty sure Fantine's day out was in the BbC adaptation.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 05/07/2026 19:41

Thanks for your thoughts on the musical @VikingNorthUtsire! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'll look it up when we get to the end.

VikingNorthUtsire · 05/07/2026 16:54

Back from my trip to London to see the show 🙂a first-time watch for me, I haven't seen the film either.

I'd been avoiding spoilers and reading for the story but I have to say, now that I know a bit more about where the plot is going, I feel like I am reading with a greater understanding of the choices that Hugo is making. How he's setting his characters up, why he may have chosen this time and place to write about. So I am glad that I've "spoiled" the plot for myself.

In terms of the story, obviously the show is a much cut-down version of the novel (and I realised that I'm assuming that there are no big differences between the two other than length but could be wrong! Maybe the show kills off a different subset of characters to the book 😱). I definitely felt that the show is poorer for missing out much of the additional stuff - maybe not quite all of the waffling, but the layers of detail that are put in place before and around each character. The opening seems to go bish bash bosh, Valjean is freed, Valjean steals the bishop's silver, Fantine loses her job and becomes a prostitute, and before you know it here we are at Fantine's deathbed barely knowing any of these characters. I understand, of course, why it has to be like that, given the length of the book. But I certainly felt that I missed all the details from the book. Those chapter's about the Bishop's household and his time with social outcasts. Fantine's day out in Saint-Cloud with her friends and the students, and Tholomyès' betrayal. The change in fortunes of the people of Montreuil-sur-Mer based on whatever it was that M Madeleine invented. It all added to our understanding of the characters and the meaningfulness of the story.

(and then we fast forward to Cosette as a young woman and miss the chase and the nuns, and JVJ's tenderness to the little girl even when they're both in danger - such great scenes and so sad to lose those)

So carry on, Hugo. I forgive (most of) your waffling.

MotherOfCatBoy · 05/07/2026 16:04

Me too at first @Pashazade but it doesn’t fit with the rest of the sentence about leeches… made more sense as the image of a barrel (tun) having a stroke (apoplexy) and leaking beer which has to be sucked up… but honestly, how convoluted!!!

Piggywaspushed · 05/07/2026 11:59

Aww, I like today's chapter what with its perfectly understandable book obsession. We should invite Mabeuf over to our thread.

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MotherOfCatBoy · 05/07/2026 08:24

I have fallen behind because of all the wind bags, I am trying to do a few chapters today and gallop up to the rear of the pack as it were!

For the first time I have had to seek out an English translation to help me with some of the long speeches and idiomatic (or idiotic) turns of phrase. The one that did it for me was Grantaire’s sentence about “La tonne d’Heidelberg” which completely flummoxed me until the cheap English online copy presented “tonne” as “tun” and I realised 💡 it was a drinking metaphor!

Yes they talk a load of bollocks.

Enjoyed Marius’ speech on Napoléon.

Soldiering on…