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Words/phrases you have seen in books that you have never heard a real life person say

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OneUmberJoker · 17/12/2025 17:01

Little high little low - stuart little

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TorroFerney · 11/07/2026 12:07

TautouRose · 09/07/2026 18:18

I'd heard that cinzano is 100 years (so it means good health and long life essentially[, but that doesn't actually track with actual Italian words :D

Yes I also thought it was English but an internet search suggests Italian but based on a Chinese phrase qing qing which means please or I invite you.

TautouRose · 09/07/2026 18:18

RubyEspadrilles · 02/07/2026 14:48

I thought it was chin chin, but just looked it up and see we write chin chin in English but other languages write cin cin but say it chin chin. It sounds so English, I thought it was something to do with lifting your glass up to your chin, I never knew it was actually Italian! I wonder if it has anything to do with cinzano?

I'd heard that cinzano is 100 years (so it means good health and long life essentially[, but that doesn't actually track with actual Italian words :D

JaneJeffer · 06/07/2026 17:56

I watched an episode of DNA Journey the other night and John Simm used Chin Chin as his toast. We’re going to notice it everywhere now aren’t we?!

Silverbirchleaf · 06/07/2026 17:46

RubyEspadrilles · 02/07/2026 14:48

I thought it was chin chin, but just looked it up and see we write chin chin in English but other languages write cin cin but say it chin chin. It sounds so English, I thought it was something to do with lifting your glass up to your chin, I never knew it was actually Italian! I wonder if it has anything to do with cinzano?

I was at a town fayre at the weekend, and a cocktail bar was called ‘Chin Chin’. Immediately thought of this thread!

JohnBullshit · 06/07/2026 13:31

Going back to a pp's mention of demurring, I was surprised at the number of people who thought DEMUR was an obscure Wordle solution a few days ago. Perhaps because we don't say it in real life, but I see a lot of fictional demurring, usually in the past tense. I didn't like to say that I got it quite easily.

SaffySaffron · 02/07/2026 20:05

cheapskatemum · 02/07/2026 18:59

Were they pupils at Malory Towers? St Clairs?

No! A chick lit easy read throwaway novel. I've lost count of the number of books I read where it's used. I swear authors write phrases down when they read other books and replicate it in their own.

cheapskatemum · 02/07/2026 18:59

SaffySaffron · 02/07/2026 11:44

Someone (different book) has just told her friend that she's incorrigible. I think I'll try saying it and see what reaction I get.

Were they pupils at Malory Towers? St Clairs?

cheapskatemum · 02/07/2026 18:55

@NotMyRealAccountfortunately DH is Glaswegian. So I was able to ask him about wee nyaffs. From what he says, a wee nyaff is waaaaay worse than a twerp!

NotMyRealAccount · 02/07/2026 17:11

cheapskatemum · 20/06/2026 00:08

Just read the mild insult “Twerp” in a book & realised I haven’t heard anyone say it since my childhood (DDad in particular).

By coincidence, I heard it IRL for the first time in ages a few days ago when my sister was telling me about a small irritating man in her workplace and we got into a discussion about the distinction between a twerp and a wee nyaff.

NotMyRealAccount · 02/07/2026 17:06

RubyEspadrilles · 02/07/2026 14:48

I thought it was chin chin, but just looked it up and see we write chin chin in English but other languages write cin cin but say it chin chin. It sounds so English, I thought it was something to do with lifting your glass up to your chin, I never knew it was actually Italian! I wonder if it has anything to do with cinzano?

I first saw it on a social media post alongside a photo of someone raising a glass, and thought it was an ironic "chin up, darling" in the manner of those really annoying status updates where people post photos of themselves on a sunbed with, "It's a hard life but someone has to do it."

RubyEspadrilles · 02/07/2026 14:48

TorroFerney · 02/07/2026 12:36

Not in a book so forgive me but I’ve just seen the phrase “cin cin” written on a bar in Croatia and commented to my husband that’s fallen out of fashion as an alternative to cheers. It’s a bit Terry Thomas I think. I’m going to try and bring it back.

I thought it was chin chin, but just looked it up and see we write chin chin in English but other languages write cin cin but say it chin chin. It sounds so English, I thought it was something to do with lifting your glass up to your chin, I never knew it was actually Italian! I wonder if it has anything to do with cinzano?

TorroFerney · 02/07/2026 12:36

Not in a book so forgive me but I’ve just seen the phrase “cin cin” written on a bar in Croatia and commented to my husband that’s fallen out of fashion as an alternative to cheers. It’s a bit Terry Thomas I think. I’m going to try and bring it back.

CaseClosedWineOpened · 02/07/2026 12:05

echt · 31/05/2026 02:12

Not so much a word as an action, where a character, invariably a man, usually a detective runs their fingers through their hair in bafflement, frustration, etc.

Never ever seen this in real life.

Disclaimer: not to be confused with shampoo ads where women shake out their tresses and do a bit of finger running.

I have a friend who does that action. He isn’t a detective, but he does it when he’s thinking about the answer to a difficult question or trying to solve a problem.

Lentilcakes · 02/07/2026 12:00

MyThreeWords · 24/05/2026 22:52

Preternatural

Used anytime any writer wants to indicate that something is strikingly, abnormally intense in some way. Things in novels are routinely preternaturally blue (eyes, usually), preternaturally dark (the sky), etc., etc.

Until I checked just now, I didn't even have a clear idea of what the word meant. And yet I always know exactly what writers are aiming for when they use the term. It's just a shorthand way of saying: I'm aiming for something very atmospheric here. Please imagine something terribly moody like what you have read in other books that use this word.

Yes, this!

SaffySaffron · 02/07/2026 11:44

Someone (different book) has just told her friend that she's incorrigible. I think I'll try saying it and see what reaction I get.

SaffySaffron · 26/06/2026 17:53

New book. Woman lifting her chin on defiance. I must learn this move, seems I'm missing out.

Gateappreciation · 20/06/2026 05:11

Fifthtimelucky · 12/06/2026 10:09

It was very common when I was a teenager in the 1970s (in Somerset), though, had I ever been called upon to do so, I’ve have written “wotcha”!

A PP mentioned “penny for your thoughts”. My grandfather (who died in the 1970s) used that quite often.

On the subject of curly hair, surely people with curly hair always used to use hairbrushes before wide-tooth combs became popular? My mother had very curly hair and always used a brush and a “normal” comb.

‘Penny for your thought’ - haven’t heard that for ages. I have used it though.

in the book I’m I reading, it’s twice referred to ‘killing the power’ referring to cars. It’s an American book, but it stuck out at me.

cheapskatemum · 20/06/2026 00:08

Just read the mild insult “Twerp” in a book & realised I haven’t heard anyone say it since my childhood (DDad in particular).

merryhouse · 14/06/2026 21:34

I know it's not real life any more than novels are, but there's Noel Coward's song Don't Let's be Beastly to the Germans

EasilyPleased · 14/06/2026 17:29

JaneJeffer · 14/06/2026 13:59

They do this on Emmerdale Grin

I miss Emmerdale Farm, when Annie Sugden could suck all the joy out of the world with a single scowl, and all the plots were about lambing and agricultural misery and clearly copied from The Riordans.

TellingBone · 14/06/2026 16:52

JaneJeffer · 14/06/2026 13:59

They do this on Emmerdale Grin

😂Cain's always at it

JaneJeffer · 14/06/2026 13:59

SaffySaffron · 13/06/2026 07:12

Oh yes, you often get a muscle twitching in blokes' jaws when they're getting annoyed. Never seen it myself.

They do this on Emmerdale Grin

EasilyPleased · 14/06/2026 13:56

Anyone interested in Victorian clothes, or laundry, or mourning, or visiting cards or little domestic details that are sometimes puzzling in 19thc fiction, should read Judith Flanders’s The Victorian House.

HonoriaBulstrode · 14/06/2026 13:26

There was the intermediate stage of knickerbockers - knee breeches. In original illustrations to E Nesbit's books, small boys aged up to about ten wear long shorts and have bare knees. Older boys wear knickerbockers and long stockings. The transition to long trousers would have come at 13/14 - for wc boys, when they left school and went to work.

I think knickerbockers for boys died out by the 1920s.They were still worn by adult men for country pursuits. And boys still wore shorts in holidays.

tokennamechange · 14/06/2026 12:42

Shithotlawyer · 12/06/2026 11:34

I found the updated 80s books very perplexing. I knew they were children from the 30s-50s, so why were they in jeans?

I had just come from reading E Nesbit and Noel Streatfeild too, so I had a good understanding of what children wore, quite well calibrated, at every point from about 1880 onwards. It was obvious to me by age 10 that children at different periods wore sets of things that I had never worn - but I was very clear on what they were.

In books of Enid Blyton's era they had slacks, tunics, rubber-soled shoes, galoshes, mackintoshes, knickers with elastic and pockets (where you could keep a Ten Pound Note at Malory Towers if you were a spoilt rich girl). Boys in shirts with collars, boys only wearing shorts not trousers until they were about 16.

Just as Victorian children wore long drawers, the mysterious "combinations", liberty bodices, petticoats with lace on Sundays, flannel petticoats at other times (good for stopping trains with) frocks, aprons over them, Sunday suits and general smart clothes made of velvet on Sundays, lace collars. Button boots, socks with garters. They had an endless war against smuts on their faces. I didn't know what smuts were.

And in the 30s little girls also had tarletan frocks with frills on for dancing in and shiny dance shoes with white ankle socks. No idea what tarletan is. School uniform included felt hats with hat bands in school colours and sailor hats in summer. Little boys wore hard wearing tweed suits with shorts, shirts and ties and school caps. Everyone always had handkerchiefs all the time. All boys carried a penknife and all girls carried a pencil stub.

Clothes had to be made and cared for differently too, and I understood that until the 50s frills might be whipped, collars could be starched, frocks might be basted, darts might be put in things, hems might be let down (if velvet, this didn't work as the underneath velvet would be newer-looking and create a line, which was a shame). Until long after the 50s socks, jackets and other clothes would certainly be darned and patched and otherwise reinforced. Doing Mending was a thing, it could take up your time, was often expected of girls, sometimes you would even have to mend sheets and pillow cases, and the job included large baskets. I stress I had never, myself, done any of the above things or even seen them done!!

I have really enjoyed remembering all this and writing it here. I am sad to think that the rich cultural and social historical knowledge I imbibed PURELY from children's books might now be erased by bowlderising and updating.

With children reading less and less, even if books are not updated they will also have less exposure to these kinds of exciting yet confusing descriptions of clothes, food, homes and so on, that you had to puzzle out, from reading many books set in each era.

It's not the same to get a general impression of Holmes and Watson on screen with clothes and accessories, as it is to read "His stout Malacca cane" and try and imagine what the hell it looks like, its colour texture and purpose.

it's amazing how much you can pick up by osmosis from books without ever having been formally taught it.

I would only say that boys would have graduated to trousers a lot earlier than 16! probably about 12/13, when they would have left 'prep' to go to their final school.

If you look back on photos of UC/MC school uniform from any time from Victorian to 1950s, by the time they are at Eton or whatever they're in trousers.