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Marianne Dreams

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Beachtastic · 27/09/2025 19:36

Did anyone else love this book as a child?

For some reason I've been thinking about it the past couple of days and will read it again (paperback on order!).

Such a clever and interesting plot. Not to mention scary!

annabookbel.net/revisiting-childrens-classic-1958-marianne-dreams-catherine-storr/

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pollyhemlock · 10/10/2025 19:14

@Beachtastic Although I’m generally a Garner fan I wasn’t that keen on Treacle Walker. Although there are some great pieces of writing in it I felt that overall it didn’t work . You have to be pretty familiar with his use of myth in earlier books to work out what’s going on and the fact that the central character, who seems to be about 11 or 12, leads a completely solitary existence bothered me. I do feel with AG that he’s more interested in place and myth than in people. It’s a very short book though and certainly worth reading if you’re interested in his work.

Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 18:58

LordEmsworth · 10/10/2025 16:32

Fans of Alan Garner in the north west of England should visit his house. It is quite, quite remarkable. www.theblackdentrust.org.uk/visit-us/guided-tours/

I see what you mean!

https://www.worldofinteriors.com/story/garners-old-medicine-house

Alan describes the tragedies and triumphs of former owners and visitors to both the houses: Mrs Carter, who lived in Toad Hall all her life and cared for her disabled brother, left the furniture on the condition that it would remain in the house. Edward Pope, a schoolmaster who had survived a Japanese prisoner-of-war camp, made the first modern improvement to the house, piping water from the well into the house and installing a semi-rotary hand pump in the kitchen. For the first time in her life, Mrs Carter had running water. And then there was ‘the Rat Man’, who visited the Old Medicine House to lay traps, moving from room to room with a growing sense of disquiet. Rounding a corner, he turned whey-white: he’d found his initials carved into a beam, despite never having visited the area. He’d played in the house as a child when it was located 18 miles away. Later in his life, returning from Dunkirk on a train of wounded soldiers bound for an unknown destination, he wiped his sleeve over the misted glass. Framed in the small circle was the house, and he knew he was almost home.

Edited to add: I didn't know he had a book published recently, Treacle Walker, which looks intriguing (very mixed reviews on Amazon, but the first says "It’s about a boy living alone, recovering from an illness, whose eyes each see the scene in front of him differently"... which ties in nicely, in a way, with Marianne Dreams!

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LordEmsworth · 10/10/2025 16:32

Fans of Alan Garner in the north west of England should visit his house. It is quite, quite remarkable. www.theblackdentrust.org.uk/visit-us/guided-tours/

CatChant · 10/10/2025 12:51

@Beachtastic popping in to say you can buy the Green Knowe books here - https://www.greenknowe.co.uk/product-category/green-knowe/

I love them and Hemingford Grey is well worth a visit too. It is just like stepping into the books.

CreativeGreen · 10/10/2025 12:24

What a lovely thread! I also loved Marianne Dreams - I remember really regretting that she couldn't manage her lovely birthday roast chicken, particularly, as well as 'noooot the liiiiight' - terrifying. Marianne and Mark is indeed a bit of a let-down, and quite sad to find the teenage Marianne is a loner in a very muted world. Seem to recall some quite snobbish stuff about a girl she meets from a (whisper it!) secondary modern school...

But Polly and the Wolf was an unmitigated delight. Would any children's book now use words like 'nonchalantly' or contain the sheer and obvious delight in language and phrasing that Storr clearly had?

Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 12:15

Latenightreader · 10/10/2025 11:38

The Green Knowe books are still in print (or were a couple of years ago) - I've bought them for people recently. There was a tv series in the ?80s and a film very loosly based on the books with horrible plot/character changes in the ten minutes I managed before switching off.

Oh, I see you're right... I was just rather hoping there might be a whole collection available, as with Anne of Green Gables. Not yet, but maybe one day...🤞🏻

So annoying when films/TV series switch things around pointlessly!

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Latenightreader · 10/10/2025 11:38

Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 10:26

Gosh that series looks amazing! And another one with expensive hardcovers on Amazon, so presumably not in print any more. It's a pity as I'd have loved to give the whole series to a friend.

Wiki says that the house is where the author lived, and in the books it's "inhabited by the spirits of people who lived there in ages past." Years ago, a BF and I were driving past his old childhood home and he stopped the car to take a closer look. It was a beautiful old house and he said he'd often seen a child's ghost in the upper floors. He was a bit nutty, so I took this with a pinch of salt.

The house had been converted into a nursing home, and he dared to ring the bell and talk to one of the care staff who came to the door. She mentioned the ghost, too - apparently many staff and guests were aware of it!

The Green Knowe books are still in print (or were a couple of years ago) - I've bought them for people recently. There was a tv series in the ?80s and a film very loosly based on the books with horrible plot/character changes in the ten minutes I managed before switching off.

Footle · 10/10/2025 10:37

@RobinTheCavewoman, me too

RobinTheCavewoman · 10/10/2025 10:30

I loved it but it terrified me too. Even seeing the thread title made me feel unsettled 😅

Rosebold · 10/10/2025 10:28

Yeah I did and still have my copy, I remember watching the film that was made of it as well called Paperhouse.

Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 10:26

Latenightreader · 10/10/2025 10:13

I loved the Green Knowe books, and still reread them from time to time. Did you know you can visit the house, which is exactly as it is in the books? It is full of the objects - Toby's mouse, the patchworks, carvings and just like stepping into the stories. The gardens are beautiful too. It is in a village called Hemingford Grey in Cambridgeshire.

Gosh that series looks amazing! And another one with expensive hardcovers on Amazon, so presumably not in print any more. It's a pity as I'd have loved to give the whole series to a friend.

Wiki says that the house is where the author lived, and in the books it's "inhabited by the spirits of people who lived there in ages past." Years ago, a BF and I were driving past his old childhood home and he stopped the car to take a closer look. It was a beautiful old house and he said he'd often seen a child's ghost in the upper floors. He was a bit nutty, so I took this with a pinch of salt.

The house had been converted into a nursing home, and he dared to ring the bell and talk to one of the care staff who came to the door. She mentioned the ghost, too - apparently many staff and guests were aware of it!

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Latenightreader · 10/10/2025 10:13

I loved the Green Knowe books, and still reread them from time to time. Did you know you can visit the house, which is exactly as it is in the books? It is full of the objects - Toby's mouse, the patchworks, carvings and just like stepping into the stories. The gardens are beautiful too. It is in a village called Hemingford Grey in Cambridgeshire.

RoseAndGeranium · 10/10/2025 09:56

Beachtastic · 27/09/2025 19:36

Did anyone else love this book as a child?

For some reason I've been thinking about it the past couple of days and will read it again (paperback on order!).

Such a clever and interesting plot. Not to mention scary!

annabookbel.net/revisiting-childrens-classic-1958-marianne-dreams-catherine-storr/

Oh my goodness! I'd forgotten all about this book but it really comes back to me now. The scary stones!! The crossed out windows!! What a brilliant book. I think my two would both still find it too scary but I'm looking forward to sharing it with them when they're a bit older. Thanks for reminding me of it, OP!

Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 09:37

@TonstantWeader I loved A Dog So Small, too! In fact, when my friends got a chihuahua, I gave them a copy.

I read the whole thing as a child thinking that the dog breed was pronounced "Chi-hewa-hewa" 🤡

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Beachtastic · 10/10/2025 09:35

CallTheRozzers · 09/10/2025 22:47

Loved so many of these!

I read The High Hose by Honor Arundel many times as a child too. It was about a faitlrly straight laced girl whose parents died suddenly and she sent to live with a bohemian aunt in Edinbugh whereas her arty brother was sent to some very square relatives elsewhere. It was dated even then, in the 90s, but I loved it. I've never met anyone else who has read it, even though the internet tells me its not obscure. There were a couple of sequels but they weren't as good.

It might not be obscure, but it's £259 on Amazon... at least, for the hardcover. I've ordered the cheapskate used paperback!

Loving the recommendations on this thread, although it will probably take me the rest of my life to catch up on all this reading...!

Marianne Dreams
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stargirl1701 · 09/10/2025 23:34

I’ve just been making a Yoto card for DD1 with this novel!

CatherinetheAverage · 09/10/2025 23:07

So many favourites here and new authors to look up too.

One author who hasn't been mentioned but is one of my favourites is Nina Beachcroft. She wrote some genuinely scary books (Under the Enchanter was really sinister) but the one I loved most was Cold Christmas, which is a beautifully atmospheric ghost story.

CallTheRozzers · 09/10/2025 22:47

Loved so many of these!

I read The High Hose by Honor Arundel many times as a child too. It was about a faitlrly straight laced girl whose parents died suddenly and she sent to live with a bohemian aunt in Edinbugh whereas her arty brother was sent to some very square relatives elsewhere. It was dated even then, in the 90s, but I loved it. I've never met anyone else who has read it, even though the internet tells me its not obscure. There were a couple of sequels but they weren't as good.

CallTheRozzers · 09/10/2025 22:47

Loved so many of these!

I read The High Hose by Honor Arundel many times as a child too. It was about a faitlrly straight laced girl whose parents died suddenly and she sent to live with a bohemian aunt in Edinbugh whereas her arty brother was sent to some very square relatives elsewhere. It was dated even then, in the 90s, but I loved it. I've never met anyone else who has read it, even though the internet tells me its not obscure. There were a couple of sequels but they weren't as good.

ScathingAngelAgrona · 09/10/2025 22:41

MonGrainDeSel · 30/09/2025 17:43

And I LOVE Diana Wynne Jones, @CatChant

Wonderful author!

TonstantWeader · 09/10/2025 22:29

I totally agree, @Beachtastic . Re-reading childhood favourites as an adult is a joy and it's great to catch up with others' recommendations. I'm another Penelope Lively fan, both of her children's books and her writing for adults. I'd add Nina Bawden and 'Carrie's War' - not explicitly a magical/supernatural book but the way in which the skull in the pond and the fire haunts Carrie for years puts it in a similar category IMO.

A book I think is underrated is 'A Dog So Small', by Phillipa Pearce. It's often overlooked because of 'Tom's Midnight Garden' being so good, but it's also a book involving a child's imagination and I remember it being v different to TMG but just as enjoyable. Weirdly, I never got on with Joan Aiken as a child, even though I loved all the Alan Garner books. Maybe I'll try again. Does anyone else remember the book/TV series 'The Moon Stallion'? Lots of Arthurian & Celtic references.

Beachtastic · 08/10/2025 14:47

I meant to say it sounds fun, not it sound fund 🤓

I hope you manage to track it down. Rediscovering much-loved childhood books is quite an eye-opener, especially now that we can use the internet to find out more about them.

For example, I just read:
When discussing Pippi, Astrid Lindgren explained that "Pippi represents my own childish longing for a person who has power but does not abuse it."

I can see why that would have appealed to me, too.

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SwallowsandAmazonians · 08/10/2025 14:34

Beachtastic · 08/10/2025 14:27

Ooh, that sound fund! Was it How to Disappear Completely and Never Be Found
by Sarah Nickerson? (I haven't read it, just got sucked into a Google rabbithole!)

That would definitely appeal to me as a child. But I think my favourite fantasy was Pippi Longstocking. The idea of having no parents around (sorry mum and dad, no offence!! -- just wonderful to have that freedom), so many gold coins that you can buy all the sweets in the shop, and the strength to lift a horse.

I just found out that "the inspiration for her father, Captain Ephraim Longstocking, came from the real life Carl Emil Pettersson, a Swedish sailor who became king of Tabar Island in Papua New Guinea after he was shipwrecked in 1904. He married the local king's daughter, and they had nine children."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Emil_Pettersson

Thanks for the suggestion but no, it was published later and I would have read this in the 90s.
The Pippi audiobooks are on repeat in this house. Never knew the backstory!

Beachtastic · 08/10/2025 14:27

SwallowsandAmazonians · 08/10/2025 13:58

The book I half remember from childhood was about a girl who moves with her family from a normal house to a big kind of spooky house. There's a pottery studio in the house and sinister things happen... I can't remember much more so it's not a lot to go on! I mainly remember details like a postcard of a giraffe in her room and someone dipping all the pots into glazes.

Ooh, that sound fund! Was it How to Disappear Completely and Never Be Found
by Sarah Nickerson? (I haven't read it, just got sucked into a Google rabbithole!)

That would definitely appeal to me as a child. But I think my favourite fantasy was Pippi Longstocking. The idea of having no parents around (sorry mum and dad, no offence!! -- just wonderful to have that freedom), so many gold coins that you can buy all the sweets in the shop, and the strength to lift a horse.

I just found out that "the inspiration for her father, Captain Ephraim Longstocking, came from the real life Carl Emil Pettersson, a Swedish sailor who became king of Tabar Island in Papua New Guinea after he was shipwrecked in 1904. He married the local king's daughter, and they had nine children."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Emil_Pettersson

Carl Emil Pettersson - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Emil_Pettersson

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SwallowsandAmazonians · 08/10/2025 13:58

The book I half remember from childhood was about a girl who moves with her family from a normal house to a big kind of spooky house. There's a pottery studio in the house and sinister things happen... I can't remember much more so it's not a lot to go on! I mainly remember details like a postcard of a giraffe in her room and someone dipping all the pots into glazes.