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Bookworm by Lucy Mangan

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TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 11/05/2025 16:30

I’m reading this and have just got to the moment which mentions the need for a Ladybird book on Maintaining Your Sanity on Mumsnet Given the Impossibility of Staying Away from Mumsnet.

Lucy: If you are on here, your book is JOYOUS. We have a LOT of childhood reading in common!

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ImaginedCorners · 14/05/2025 15:12

Pedant5corner · 14/05/2025 14:40

@ImaginedCorners , it's not what needs correcting.
Stop poking me.

‘Poking’? You addressed me by name above. Does that also constitute ‘poking’?

ImaginedCorners · 14/05/2025 15:11

Ddakji · 14/05/2025 14:30

A point of view based on what? A mistake in a book?

What exactly did you mean by implying she wasn’t “genuine”? Can you explain further?

Some posters appear to think LM is pretending to have been a voracious childhood reader for the purposes of selling a book, when in fact she’s skimmed the Spark Notes guide to children’s writing, and her error about which visit Lucy met Aslan on is a ‘Gotcha!’ which proves she has not only not read TLTWATW, but probably hasn’t read anything much, ever.

I mean, I don’t get it either.

But I’m always interested in my own mistakes and misrememberings, and strange automatic pilot moments. I once, in an essay for a major peer-reviewed journal got past two editors, the main editor and a copy-editor with a reference to ‘James Joyce’s highly sexual letters to Lucia’ (Lucia was Joyce’s daughter — the letters were written to his partner/wife Nora!) I knew this perfectly well, but not only did I write it and reread and revise it multiple times without registering the mistake, so did two well-known Joyce scholars, clearly equally on automatic pilot. I noticed it myself, in horror, at final proof stage.

And realised later on that I had a copy of a book about Lucia Joyce on my desk beside my PC, so probably jist absorbed it from there.

But an essay in a peer-reviewed journal almost went to press, incredibly, with the completely baseless claim that Joyce sent sex letters to his daughter.

Pedant5corner · 14/05/2025 14:40

@ImaginedCorners , it's not what needs correcting.
Stop poking me.

Ddakji · 14/05/2025 14:30

mylovedoesitgood · 14/05/2025 14:25

Unpleasant? That’s subjective. In any case, I have a differing point of view, and it’s OK to voice that, within reason. Are you new to online forums?

A point of view based on what? A mistake in a book?

What exactly did you mean by implying she wasn’t “genuine”? Can you explain further?

ImaginedCorners · 14/05/2025 14:25

Pedant5corner · 14/05/2025 13:35

@SheilaFentiman , I'm responding because you keep poking me.

@ImaginedCorners , your comparison is ridiculous.

It’s not you know. It’s a single word. If ‘first’ were corrected to ‘third’, there would be no error.

mylovedoesitgood · 14/05/2025 14:25

Ddakji · 14/05/2025 14:19

You’re right, @SheilaFentiman - apologies @CurlewKate! it was your quote of @mylovedoesitgood’s unpleasant take that I had looked at.

Unpleasant? That’s subjective. In any case, I have a differing point of view, and it’s OK to voice that, within reason. Are you new to online forums?

Ddakji · 14/05/2025 14:19

You’re right, @SheilaFentiman - apologies @CurlewKate! it was your quote of @mylovedoesitgood’s unpleasant take that I had looked at.

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 14:14

@Ddakji I’m not sure you meant to tag CurlewKate, she’s an enthusiast for the book!

Ddakji · 14/05/2025 14:10

That’s a printing/binding error. Nothing to do with the author.

You’re are right, @MoistVonL - Bookworm is a memoir, not an academic treatise.

That’s a pretty unpleasant and unnecessary thing to infer @CurlewKate.

I think some people on this thread should either give up reading for pleasure or go and start their own publishing company and let the rest of us know how they get on.

InMySpareTime · 14/05/2025 14:00

My copy of Bookworm has the first 38 pages and all the cover/intro/copyright pages printed twice. That was far more jarring than any factual inaccuracies.
Picture of p38 open beside the restart.

Bookworm by Lucy Mangan
SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:51

I have used the Kindle 'highlight and report' function to report a factual error in the words "On her first visit", maybe if we all do it, the next edition will correct this to "On one visit" and honour will be satisfied 😁

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:49

mylovedoesitgood · 14/05/2025 13:48

It would probably be odd for such a book not to mention Narnia, even if it was 'tried a Narnia book, never got on with it well' - which is basically what she then goes on to say about Tolkien.

Is the point I was inferring to.

OK, I still don't know what you mean by this.

mylovedoesitgood · 14/05/2025 13:48

It would probably be odd for such a book not to mention Narnia, even if it was 'tried a Narnia book, never got on with it well' - which is basically what she then goes on to say about Tolkien.

Is the point I was inferring to.

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:42

My Kindle version (your font size may vary) has 7 pages about CS Lewis and the Narnia books. From my own recollection of the Chronicles, this is the only error I could see. (The section opens with the book being gifted to her by her dad.)

Additionally, this particular book ticks a few boxes, from a PR perspective.
Ummm, I don't know what you mean by this, in all honesty. It would probably be odd for such a book not to mention Narnia, even if it was 'tried a Narnia book, never got on with it well' - which is basically what she then goes on to say about Tolkien.

I don't feel I can say any more on this topic. I have no doubt she read it as a child and made a mistake that wasn't picked up. Others feel that this means she probably wasn't such a bookworm after all; I disagree. Hey ho.

CurlewKate · 14/05/2025 13:42

Bizarre that a couple of misrememberings or typos would put people off. It must make it very difficult to find anything to read!

It’s a lovely book-if you haven’t read it, please do.

Pedant5corner · 14/05/2025 13:35

@SheilaFentiman , I'm responding because you keep poking me.

@ImaginedCorners , your comparison is ridiculous.

mylovedoesitgood · 14/05/2025 13:32

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:06

Do you? LM clearly read voraciously and she's, what, 50 now?

I used to read a book a day as a teen (I kept a record for a project) and I would not be able to tell you much about the plot or characters of many of them now. Doesn't mean I didn't read them.

I also wouldn’t be able to remember the details from the books I read more than thirty years ago years ago, but Lucy positioned herself as a voracious reader in childhood, to sell her book, and has been around the block enough times to know that editors don’t have the time or inclination to check plot details. Additionally, this particular book ticks a few boxes, from a PR perspective.

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:31

Looking through the 'bookshelf' index, on a quick count with my finger so I may not be wholly accurate, it references about 250 titles, some of which are series (eg The Chalet School series, The Milly-Molly-Mandy series)

MoistVonL · 14/05/2025 13:27

She got it wrong. That's a bit embarrassing for her and frustrating for those of us who also read it and remember more accurately, but that doesn't stop the book bewing enjoyable for me. It's the Mandela Effect, where we are sure we remember seeing things that we definitely couldn't have. (yes, I 'see' books as I read them).

There was a 'forced choice' trick that the magician Dynamo did with someone picking a page at random from Pride and Prejudice and reading out a sentence. That line was absolutely not in the book. It drove me mental. Until my kids pointed out the magic trick wasn't about accurately reflecting P&P, it was sleight of hand and some fun.

Bookworm is a memoire about a childhood of books. It's still true that Lucy Mangan read all those books and loved them, built her sense of self from the books she made part of her.

So did I. If we misremember one of the 10,000 books of our childhood, no matter how famous, it doesn't make our lives with books any less true.

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:26

BTW - this book - Reading Lessons: An English Teacher’s Love Letter to the Books that Shape Us by Carol Atherton is an excellent one and I am sure will have no mistakes because Carol has taught all of these books/plays/poems repeatedly to secondary school pupils.

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:23

I have now bought the book, so LM has got at least one sale out of this thread :>

Doubleraspberry · 14/05/2025 13:22

I read many of the same books as Lucy M, was definitely a bookworm, and didn't register this error at all. We all have books we know better than others and mistakes that would jar with us (I spotted the absence of Cecil immediately!) but we can enjoy and fondly remember other books without knowing them so well - clearly the Aslan scene had stuck but the details around it were fuzzier.

ImaginedCorners · 14/05/2025 13:19

Pemba · 14/05/2025 13:13

It's a pretty big plot point though. Nothing like the colour of a dress as a pp mentioned. Lucy in the book doesn't meet Aslan until much later on. It is of course Mr Tumnus she meets on her first visit and promises to help.

I would think that many readers remember that. The book is so iconic and also there have been film and TV adaptations etc. Lucy Mangan may have read TLTW&TW, but you do question how much of a devoted reader she really was. And then that leads you to question everything else in her book, what a shame.

But the error is literally LM saying that Lucy met a talking lion called Aslan on her first visit to Narnia rather than her third, not that the plot of the novel concerns her befriending a singing hyena or joining the White Queen’s ogre brigade to fight Father Christmas and the dryads?

SheilaFentiman · 14/05/2025 13:19

...but you do question how much of a devoted reader she really was. And then that leads you to question everything else in her book, what a shame.

It's this viewpoint that I don't understand, TBH.

CurlewKate · 14/05/2025 13:18

mylovedoesitgood · 12/05/2025 19:58

Yes, I felt the same. Can’t say I feel drawn to the sequel to Bookworm now I have the nagging feeling Lucy maybe isn’t as genuine as she wants us to think she is.

What do you mean by “genuine”?