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Are the shades of Pemberley to be thus polluted?

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BeaAndBen · 27/02/2025 14:39

I’ve been enjoying P&P yet again, and reached the absolute delight of Chapter 56.

Lady Catherine’s visit to Longbourn is something I look forward to each time. She’s so utterly ghastly, and Elizabeth so resolute and devastating in her replies, that I grin through the entire section.

Are there bits of favourite books that particularly stand out to people?

Miss Pettigrew getting her makeover -“England expects….” makes me laugh every time - or maybe Anne Elliot reading Captain Wentworth’s letter?
The concept of Angels as explained to Moist von Lipwig?

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Dolamroth · 02/03/2025 09:59

Phineyj · 02/03/2025 08:06

I've just read A Month in the Country (binged it in a single session). It's a wonderful book. I loved how the narrator felt he was getting to know the artist, across all that span of time.

That is a wonderful book.

Phineyj · 02/03/2025 09:53

I'm sure a lot of great artists were, and are, curmudgeons. Goes with the territory!

Crichel · 02/03/2025 09:51

Oh, I love encountering other A Month in the Country fans. I think it’s a perfect novel. My former publisher published it originally in 1980, and was full of stories about what a curmudgeon JL Carr was. I used to tell him to stop, as I’ve made a point of never reading anything else by JLC, or know much about him, as I like thinking of the novel as something magic and contextless.

clary · 02/03/2025 09:28

bibliomania · 02/03/2025 07:47

I've never read any Heyer so this must be remedied. I also have MMA unread on a shelf.

Mine are the most unenthusiastic elopement ever in Crompton Hodnet by Barbara Pym, when both parties long for a nice cup of tea and to go home. And uncovering the wall painting in A Month in the Country b J L Carr.

Ah yessss the whole of A Month in the Country is amazing isn't it. When he realises what happened to the artist! I love the understated way the whole book is written. Ah @Phineyj also a fan! sorry missed your post initially.

Phineyj · 02/03/2025 08:06

I've just read A Month in the Country (binged it in a single session). It's a wonderful book. I loved how the narrator felt he was getting to know the artist, across all that span of time.

bibliomania · 02/03/2025 07:47

I've never read any Heyer so this must be remedied. I also have MMA unread on a shelf.

Mine are the most unenthusiastic elopement ever in Crompton Hodnet by Barbara Pym, when both parties long for a nice cup of tea and to go home. And uncovering the wall painting in A Month in the Country b J L Carr.

Slimbear · 02/03/2025 07:20

Oftenaddled · 28/02/2025 11:06

"We Woosters do not lightly forget. At least, we do—some things—appointments, and people’s birthdays, and letters to post, and all that—but not an absolute bally insult like the above. I brooded like the dickens".

Jeeves and Wooster with Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie are on YouTube. Still so good .

Heyyoupleasekeepgoing · 02/03/2025 06:54

I always look forward to Betsey and the donkeys in David Copperfield.

Arglefraster · 02/03/2025 00:57

Moglet4 · 01/03/2025 19:58

I think it would have to be P&P for me too and whilst I love the scene you’ve mentioned, the one that really makes me snort with laughter every time is ‘There are few people in England I suppose, who have more true enjoyment of music than myself, or a better natural taste. If I had ever learnt, I should have been a great proficient.’ Partly it’s because it reminds me of my Mum 🙊

This is mine too. Glorious!

I'm not a great re reader excepting reading aloud to my children & each of them has squealed during the Chrestomani series when the ever so special spell turns out to be "Chrestomanci" 😁 we're rereading again & my 10yr is already gleefully anticipating.

ItisIbeserk · 02/03/2025 00:24

The chapter in Right Ho, Jeeves when Jeeves describes a drunk Gussie Fink-Nottle at the school prize giving,

Also Ferdy and ‘that Greek fellow’.

Larry’s various visitors in My Family and Other Animals.

The box of Christmas gifts in What Katy Did At School.

ODFOx · 02/03/2025 00:10

The disinterment scene in Tom Sharpe's Wilt while the assessment team from CNAA are looking out from the FE college room where the lunch buffet has been laid out. I can't remember the name if the lecturer with the dry wit who essentially narrates the whole debacle but I have laughed until I cried many times over the years at that chapter.

ODFOx · 02/03/2025 00:02

The scene near the beginning if A Tale of Two Cities where the barrel of wine falls from the wagon and breaks over the cobbles. The carnival of everyone running into the street to get what they can, stemming the rivulets between the cobbles with the dust if the street then scooping the red mud into their mouths to enjoy every drop. The children laughing.
I wasn't a Dickens fan, but that scene and all it conveyed about the poverty and the resilience of the people and the joy derived from the chaos is so so good.

Baital · 01/03/2025 23:49

After all, Richard was about to be manipulated into marriage with Melissa Brandon, and giving in to it.

Pen was being pressured into marriage with cousin Geoffrey, and responded by climbing out of the window (because Pug would have barked if she had gone out the door).

In some ways he was much older, but in others she was more independent and self confident

Baital · 01/03/2025 23:45

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 23:14

Indeed. A slightly dodgy book in retrospect (mind you, Rule and Horry too) but some fab lines.

Horrible, Ricky, horrible!

Of course, a young gentleman in his tutor's charge would be travelling on the common stage.

You're Ricky's past, that's what you are!

I don't find the age gaps problematic where the heroine has agency, independence of thought and intelligence.

I find the ones where they are manipulated, vulnerable and/or trying to be loved (April Lady?) problematic.

Most of her books are about the relationship of equals, whatever their age/experience

Halstonriver · 01/03/2025 23:28

Loving all the Georgette Heyer quotes. Thank you @merryhouse and everyone else who has posted.

MercyChant66 · 01/03/2025 23:19

drwitch · 01/03/2025 19:51

Lowering the tone a bit but two of roald Dahl's short stories

  1. when someone kills their husband with a frozen leg of lamb. Then there is lovely scene where she cooks for the police (because it would be a shame to waste it) and they keep saying "the murder weapon must be here somewhere

  2. an abusive husband that wants to keep his brain alive after death. So after he dies he is just a brain in a fish tank with an eye. His wife just keeps taunting him with obviously doing all the things he prevented her doing. Every day she blows smoke rings into his tank

No. 1 is Lamb to the Slaughter - I read it at school!

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 23:14

Baital · 01/03/2025 23:04

The Corinthian?

Indeed. A slightly dodgy book in retrospect (mind you, Rule and Horry too) but some fab lines.

Horrible, Ricky, horrible!

Of course, a young gentleman in his tutor's charge would be travelling on the common stage.

You're Ricky's past, that's what you are!

Baital · 01/03/2025 23:04

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:49

(Must George be vulgar?)

The Corinthian?

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:52

I had the pleasure of meeting the highwayman, of course, but I was not aware that Pomeroy's great-aunt had interested herself in the affair

Velvian · 01/03/2025 22:49

(Spoiler alert)
In A Handful of Dust when Brenda Last is informed that "John" has died and her relief that it is her young son John Andrew and not her lover John Beaver.

Nancy Mitford, can't remember if it is Love in a Cold Climate or another in the series, when the younger sisters (Jassy and ??) are hiding in the linen cupboard driving everyone mad by singing out the newspaper headlines 'Man's Lift Agony' - It really made me laugh, it reminded so much of my younger sisters and cousins.

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:49

(Must George be vulgar?)

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:49

Certainly not Miss Charlotte Winwood. I have it on excellent authority that nothing would induce Miss Charlotte to marry me.

Good God, my Lord!

Thank you Arnold. You comfort me.

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:47

@Youcalyptus that; and the one in Guards! Guards! when Vimes' musing on Lady Sybil is all tied up with his rant at the beginning of the book

The city was a wossname... thingy... woman, that was it.

and then - the woman was a city.

It's beautiful.

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:43

Oh, every now and then I remember a short story by Dick Francis - the title story of a collection. Can't really quote without a risk of spoiling, but the title says it all Grin "It's all right, m'sieur..."

merryhouse · 01/03/2025 22:39

You're surely not going to tell me that eels find you more entertaining than I do?