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50 Books Challenge 2025 Part Three

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Southeastdweller · 15/02/2025 11:18

Welcome to the third thread of the 50 Book Challenge for this year.
The challenge is to read fifty books (or more!) in 2025, though reading fifty isn't mandatory. Any type of book can count, and please try to let us all know your thoughts on what you've read.

If possible, please can you embolden your titles and maybe authors as well of books you've read or going to read? It makes it much easier to keep track, especially when the threads move quickly at this time of the year.

The first thread of the year is here and the second thread here.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 16/02/2025 14:18

Aw. Perhaps Mr. O. could have become a 50-Booker. His loss ;)

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 16/02/2025 14:07

Ha! The offending post has been completely deleted rendering all comments eccentric!!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 16/02/2025 13:52

Ooh. Would this be the gold found at the end of a rainbow 🌈 ✨️

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/02/2025 13:52

Know your audience, Mr Okewe. We don't give over our hard-earned gold for anything less than a newly discovered Austen.

Terpsichore · 16/02/2025 13:47

Also just reported!

I love Dickens too. After all, isn’t all reading good….?

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 16/02/2025 13:45

Anyone? Grin

Reported!

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 16/02/2025 13:42

I have read a smattering of Dickens, and loved some of them, but for some reason can never be arsed to pick up one of the ones I haven't read, probably because I know how much effort is involved.

Bleak House and David Copperfield are both amazing however

Terpsichore · 16/02/2025 13:40

Great posts @cassandre. I've read everything in my time, from Mills and Boon to Proust. I knew exactly what I was getting with M&B and it was the equivalent of a comforting blanket: nothing untoward would happen, I wouldn’t be challenged or threatened by unpleasantness and everything would be OK in the end (what would Barthes make of one, I wonder?!).

Proust - well, it’s hard. Often boring. The sentences are interminable sometimes and I frequently want to throttle dear Marcel with my bare hands (for those of you reading him at the moment: just wait till you get to The Prisoner). But there are passages of great beauty and it can be laugh out loud funny.

Both types of reading are completely fine and I wouldn’t stop anyone reading anything they want, but I know which one will stay with me ultimately as worth my time and commitment.

BlueFairyBugsBooks · 16/02/2025 13:31

I definitely read a lot of "dross" compared to most of you on here. Which is one of the reasons I'm starting to pull back on applying for so many ARCs so I have time to read older books that I've never gotten around to.
I've discovered some fantastic books and authors by becoming a "reviewer" but I've read a lot of nonsense too.

Piggywaspushed · 16/02/2025 13:23

I was asked the other week why I 'know so much' about everything. Because I read lots of books

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/02/2025 13:20

@MamaNewtNewt Looks like there will be a few of us sinking into Dickensless dementia together, at least.

MamaNewtNewt · 16/02/2025 13:18

Oh man if Dickens is the road to salvation for avoiding dementia then I'm sunk. I was put off for life (with the exception of A Christmas Carol) by having to read Hard Times at A level. I have some lovely versions of some Dickens books that my Mam got me that I might give a go at some point.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/02/2025 13:18

Just finished Spook Street by Mick Heron - number 4 and my favourite so far. Either he’s warmed properly into his style now, or I’ve just got more used to it. It seemed less convoluted and busy and more purposeful. His characterisation is great and I really enjoyed the plot of this one, in which old decisions come back to make new problems. One thing happened that I really wish hadn’t happened, but I guess that’s Heron’s way of keeping things fresh across the series. Really glad that I persevered with number one.

ÚlldemoShúl · 16/02/2025 13:15

I’m one of the people who agreed with ‘books for people who aren’t readers’ and apologise if that offended anyone. I don’t see that description as a bad thing per se- I was thinking primarily of my sister- much more accomplished in education and work than I am, much more of a social butterfly but only reads a handful of books a year. She fills her time with other equally valuable things, and often only hears of the books that are very highly publicised and has read at least 3 on the list doing the rounds here.

I do think that there are books which publishers put huge levels of marketing into and that they want to sell to people who don’t usually read- after all the reading public is only a tiny percentage of the adult market. Often those books are high concept or emotionally manipulative (Shelley Sweringen on BookTube did a video on this recently) and as a pp said there is often a backlash against them later on- but that’s the same with movies, celebs or anything raised high by society in the first place.

I read primarily for entertainment, but also to experience worlds and lives that are different to my own- that’s probably why I read a little bit of everything. I do believe reading is better at creating empathy and understanding than other media- mainly because we can see inside the POV character’s head- but other forms like tv and film do still play an important part in developing those skills.

Piggywaspushed · 16/02/2025 13:15

Maybe that's where I have been going wrong! Grin

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/02/2025 13:12

Reading Dickens is enough to drive anybody around the fucking bend imvho.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 16/02/2025 13:05

Knew there had to be a reward for reading Dickens 🤪
(Joking! I like Dickens!)

cassandre · 16/02/2025 13:02

Good point Piggy, I didn't mean to imply that CCM wasn't literary, because it obviously is!

Labelling books as literary and non-literary is a highly subjective exercise anyway.

Piggywaspushed · 16/02/2025 13:00

Reading throughout life may stave off dementia, most especially difficult, fictional reads like Dickens. Genuinely true findings from a study!

Re CCM , it is the only one of the books being discussed above that has made it on to A Level set texts, which tends to be a fairly unadventurous list.I think it's really literary as it goes.

cassandre · 16/02/2025 12:57

Sorry that was such a massively long post, I get carried away on this topic in case you can't tell 😳

cassandre · 16/02/2025 12:54

When it comes to reading we grant ourselves every right in the book, including those we withhold from the young people we claim to be teaching.

  1. The right not to read.
  2. The right to skip pages.
  3. The right not to finish a book.
  4. The right to reread.
  5. The right to read anything.
  6. The right to escapism.
  7. The right to read anywhere.
  8. The right to browse.
  9. The right to read aloud.
  10. The right not to defend your tastes.

I’ll stop at ten. A nice round figure, that also happens to be the sacred number of the famous Commandments. Except this is a list of things you can do.
If we want our sons, our daughters, all young people to read, we must grant them the same rights we grant ourselves.

-- Daniel Pennac, Better Than Life

cassandre · 16/02/2025 12:51

Great post @JaninaDuszejko ! You've put your finger on one big thing that annoyed me about both EO and Crawdads, namely the characters' implausibly quick recovery from trauma. I also agree totally with what you say about how reading fiction (and sometimes also nonfiction) can immerse you in someone else's world. So reading can make you more emotionally intelligent as well as better informed.

I'm greatly enjoying this whole discussion of what people read. On one level, obviously, it's very much a matter of taste. 'Litfic' is generally what I read and like, but I'm very aware that litfic is only one genre among others. And some types of litfic I find too pretentious and navel-gazing (books that make it to the Booker Prize shortlist, I'm looking at you!). That said, most friends I know in real life prefer less lit-ficcy, more commercialised fiction than I do. My SIL, for example, reads masses of fiction, but there's very little cross-over in her tastes and mine. So I love the 50-Booker threads because there are loads of people here who share my reading tastes. These MN threads are probably more skewed towards readers of litfic. That said, 50-Bookers read and review all kinds of books, and I've definitely been inspired to read books I wouldn't have read otherwise, due to the reviews on here. For instance, I might actually have to go off and read Captain Corelli now, gasp!

I firmly believe that people should read whatever they enjoy, regardless of how popular or unpopular it is the Daily Fail excepted of course.

The literary critic Roland Barthes in his book S/Z argued that there are two types of books, the readerly text versus the writerly text ('texte lisible' and 'texte scriptible'). Readerly texts according to Barthes are more predictable and easier to understand, so you read them passively and they bring you pleasure ('plaisir'). Writerly texts on the other hand are more demanding and don't present their interpretation to you on a platter; you have to actively work to make sense of them. Writerly texts therefore turn the reader into a co-author, and while reading these texts is more challenging, it's also more rewarding, and you experience not just pleasure but bliss ('jouissance').

So make of that theory what you will, ha. Personally I find it quite helpful, because yes, sometimes more demanding books are more rewarding. That said, I don't always want to be an active reader; sometimes I just want to be a passive one, and lose myself in a story without having to think about it too hard.

I would also say that quite a few books that initially look like 'readerly' books turn out to be 'writerly' ones, if you think about them some more. Barthes' theory is also quite elitist I would say. For centuries, books written for a primarily female audience were seen as less worthwhile and less literary, whereas in fact this view involved a lot of implicit sexism (if women are enjoying a book, it must not be very good!).

Another thing is that in my RL book club, some of the books I consider less 'good' from a literary point of view are the ones that we've had the best discussions about.

I feel like posting Daniel Pennac's excellent 'Rights of the Reader' list, even though everyone has probably seen them before!

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 16/02/2025 12:46

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/02/2025 12:43

Yes. Too much quoting of long posts going on. Happy to join you in the policing of that @EineReiseDurchDieZeit 😂

Thank God! Blush

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/02/2025 12:43

Yes. Too much quoting of long posts going on. Happy to join you in the policing of that @EineReiseDurchDieZeit 😂

MrsALambert · 16/02/2025 12:42

I always remember a line from a TV show I watched years ago, ‘you should read what you enjoy, not what you think you ought to.’ That stuck with me as I was always worried what other people thought of what I read, particularly as it was around the same time as Harry Potter was first published and adults who read it were ridiculed in certain places. I don’t care as much now (probably due to my age more than anything else) but there is still a side of me that wishes I read more literary books or at least found them easier to read.