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Bienvenue à Marseille | 2025 The Count of Monte Christo, read-a-long

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AgualusasLover · 15/11/2024 13:18

Following the success of the continuing Dickensalongs, Fallen Women and various other classics, please join The Count of Monte Christo read-a-long, kicking off on 1 January 2025.

The ultimate tale of revenge, with swashbuckling, chicanery and bare faced lies - The Count of Monte Christo has it all.

Editions: most important point is an unabridged version, coming in at just over 1,200 pages. This thread discusses the various translations – the Penguin Classics, trans by Robin Buss is very popular and the one I am reading but what you have already is likely fine and the nuances of translation are always fun to discuss.

What’s the best translation of The Count of Monte Cristo? • We Love Translations

I’ve been thinking about the best way to read-a-long. There have been red-alongs by the day, in chunks and every which way.

I think we have two options:

There are 118 chapter and my proposal is we do one a day, starting on 1 January, 2025. (W&P and all the Fallen Women books worked well this way)

We could also convene weekly e.g. no spoilers until Sunday and read it as it was released, in 18 parts c.65 pages per week. (I remember The Woman in White worked well this way and so do the Dickensalongs)

For now, I have assumed a chapter a day as it has served us well so far, if the majority strongly object, I have put placeholders in my copy breaking it down and can update in readiness for January.

Schmoop very handily has chapter by chapter breakdowns. Here is the Intro https://www.shmoop.com/study-guides/count-of-monte-cristo/

MN meet up in Marseille 2025!

Bienvenue à Marseille | 2025 The Count of Monte Christo, read-a-long
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LuckyMauveReader · 16/01/2025 15:26

Pardon the spelling of 'abbe'. I am unsure how to get the accent above the 'e'.

LuckyMauveReader · 16/01/2025 15:24

Dante described the abbe as a savant. Given the abbe's intellectual abilities, I'd say that would be a perfect fit. Dante is so mesmerized by him that the relationship between the two will be nice to see unfold.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 16/01/2025 15:16

Enjoyed hearing about how the abbé has been spending his time. Gosh!

CutFlowers · 16/01/2025 14:19

Great chapter. Am finding it quite hard to resist reading on but I know I will miss things without the summaries and tĥe chat (I missed the bit that Dantès senior had died.)

Orland0 · 16/01/2025 09:12

@AgualusasLover No worries, I’m glad to see you pop up, I was hoping you were just busy but still with us 😊

Chapter 16

An Italian Scholar

  • Edmond hugs his new friend. The man is short, with thick eyebrows and a thick black beard. His clothes are in tatters. He appears to be around 65 years old.
  • Before they do anything else, the man sets about cleaning up the cell.
  • He picks up the stone Edmond removed and asks why it was cut so crudely; he's surprised that he doesn't have any tools. Edmond is surprised to find that the man does have tools – and what tools he has: a well-crafted file, chisel, pliers, and level.
  • He's used the file, he tells Edmond, to dig fifty feet. Still, he's not encouraged by what he sees in Edmond's cell: his only window looks out over a courtyard patrolled by soldiers; he fears that all is lost.
  • Edmond asks Number 27 to introduce himself.
  • Abbé Faria tells him that he has been imprisoned since 1808 for plotting to unite Italy – the particulars are insanely complicated, so don't worry about them.
  • All of Faria's talk of Italy and popes and plots begins to make Edmond think that maybe the abbé is insane after all. He asks the abbé if he has really, after all this planning, abandoned the idea of escaping.
  • The abbé tells Edmond that he simply can't go on – not after reaching what he thought was the end of his journey, only to find a whole new challenge.
  • Seeing that the abbé had put his heart into his escape attempt, Edmond is inspired: if this man, he thinks, could devote himself to such a task, surely I could too.
  • Edmond has an idea. Why don't they dig another tunnel leading under the path in the courtyard, kill the guard, and escape from there?
  • The abbé reminds him that such an act would make him guilty of a crime, whereas now he is innocent; Edmond can't argue with this reasoning. Why else hadn't he simply killed his jailer? They must be more patient, he continues, if they want to succeed.
  • Edmond asks the abbé how he could have waited so long and so patiently. "I wrote or I studied," he tells Edmond (16.85). Edmond is amazed. Where, he wonders, could you have gotten pens, paper, and ink?
  • The abbé tells him that he's made them, and he promises to show them – along with his Treatise on the Prospects for a General Monarchy in Italy – to Edmond when they visit the abbé's cell.
  • The abbé goes on to tell him that he once owned thousands of books, that he speaks five living languages, and that he is teaching himself modern Greek using his knowledge of Ancient Greek.
  • Edmond is eager to see the abbé's work as soon as possible and, so, they leave immediately for his cell.
AgualusasLover · 15/01/2025 22:39

Even though I have read this before, I am totally floored by the pace.

@Orland0 thank you for posting the summaries. Work has just gone beyond crazy.

4 years just flashes by and you can totally see how someone would go crazy in this situation.

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JaninaDuszejko · 15/01/2025 20:30

And yes, the Abbé is no 27, in the previous chapter we're told he's in cell 27 and then at the end that they are named after their cells.

JaninaDuszejko · 15/01/2025 20:27

A lot seemed to happen here The Great Escape was just part of it. I really want to read on now.

I thought it was interesting how he talked about how Edmund remembered the prayers his mother had taught him. Terry Waite, who had been a chorister when young, said he recited the psalms when he was kidnapped because they gave him hope.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 15/01/2025 19:33

lifeturnsonadime · 15/01/2025 17:55

I wonder if number 27 is the abbe? He spoke of getting the drawing wrong and the exit should have been the sea, wasn't the abbe doing some intricate drawing when the Inspector visited.

Was he also, like Dantes, pretending to be mad to disguise the plan?

Yes, I think so.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 15/01/2025 18:27

Ok, I'm getting there with it now

lifeturnsonadime · 15/01/2025 17:55

I wonder if number 27 is the abbe? He spoke of getting the drawing wrong and the exit should have been the sea, wasn't the abbe doing some intricate drawing when the Inspector visited.

Was he also, like Dantes, pretending to be mad to disguise the plan?

BiscuitsBooks · 15/01/2025 13:26

The chapter summaries are great, thank you. I read them after I've read the chapter to make sure I haven't missed anything.

Orland0 · 15/01/2025 13:19

I hope it’s ok for me to keep posting chapter summaries, I do find them useful to read after I’ve listened to the chapter.

Chapter 15

Number 34 and 27

  • As you might expect, the whole rotting in prison thing weighs heavily upon Edmond. He asks for any and every kind of change: to be thrust deeper into darkness, to be given fresh air and exercise; he asks for a cellmate, even if he's the crazy abbé. Deprived of real human contact, he talks to his jailer, despite the fact that his jailer won't talk back.
  • Eventually, he turns to God, praying fervently and furiously ever day, but his prayers aren't answered. He becomes obsessed with the idea that his life, so promising, was destroyed by fate.
  • He begins to curse his jailer. He throws himself against the walls of his cell.
  • He decides, at one point, that human hatred, not divine vengeance, must be responsible for his plight; he decides, too, that proper retribution requires a punishment crueler than death.
  • His thoughts turn to suicide, and the simple thought that he could end his life, the knowledge that he retains some power over his fate, eases his pain. He decides there are two ways for him to go: hanging and starvation.
  • Four years into his imprisonment, he decides to starve himself. He throws away his food each day until he becomes so weak that he cannot even summon the strength to do that.
  • That evening, he hears a strange scratching, unlike the noise of vermin that he has become accustomed to. He writes it off as a hallucination.
  • He hears the same noise, louder now, a few hours later. Edmond is intrigued. When the jailer comes in with his lunch, he makes sure to talk loudly, in order that he might cover up the noise – he's sure that a fellow prisoner, a fellow human being is responsible for it.
  • Still, he can't be sure, at least not yet. Driven on by hope, he begins eating again, then sets about finding a way to test his hypothesis about the noise.
  • He decides to knock on the wall: if the work resumes quickly thereafter, he'll know it's being done by a workman; if it ceases until the evening, he'll know it's a prisoner.
  • The noise does not resume that evening, nor the next day, nor the day after that. It's only three days later that he hears even the faintest scratching.
  • Encouraged, he begins to look for some tool he can use to work at the cement between the stones in the wall.
  • He decides to break his water pitcher and sharpen the end of its handle into a point. He works all night, making little progress, but he's happy nonetheless.
  • The next day, the jailer doesn't seem too concerned about the broken pitcher; he merely finds Edmond a new one.
  • Four years into his imprisonment, he decides to starve himself. He throws away his food each day until he becomes so weak that he cannot even summon the strength to do that.
  • That evening, he hears a strange scratching, unlike the noise of vermin that he has become accustomed to. He writes it off as a hallucination.
  • He hears the same noise, louder now, a few hours later. Edmond is intrigued. When the jailer comes in with his lunch, he makes sure to talk loudly, in order that he might cover up the noise – he's sure that a fellow prisoner, a fellow human being is responsible for it.
  • Still, he can't be sure, at least not yet. Driven on by hope, he begins eating again, then sets about finding a way to test his hypothesis about the noise.
  • He decides to knock on the wall: if the work resumes quickly thereafter, he'll know it's being done by a workman; if it ceases until the evening, he'll know it's a prisoner.
  • The noise does not resume that evening, nor the next day, nor the day after that. It's only three days later that he hears even the faintest scratching.
  • Encouraged, he begins to look for some tool he can use to work at the cement between the stones in the wall.
  • He decides to break his water pitcher and sharpen the end of its handle into a point. He works all night, making little progress, but he's happy nonetheless.
  • The next day, the jailer doesn't seem too concerned about the broken pitcher; he merely finds Edmond a new one.
  • Four years into his imprisonment, he decides to starve himself. He throws away his food each day until he becomes so weak that he cannot even summon the strength to do that.
  • That evening, he hears a strange scratching, unlike the noise of vermin that he has become accustomed to. He writes it off as a hallucination.
  • He hears the same noise, louder now, a few hours later. Edmond is intrigued. When the jailer comes in with his lunch, he makes sure to talk loudly, in order that he might cover up the noise – he's sure that a fellow prisoner, a fellow human being is responsible for it.
  • Still, he can't be sure, at least not yet. Driven on by hope, he begins eating again, then sets about finding a way to test his hypothesis about the noise.
  • He decides to knock on the wall: if the work resumes quickly thereafter, he'll know it's being done by a workman; if it ceases until the evening, he'll know it's a prisoner.
  • The noise does not resume that evening, nor the next day, nor the day after that. It's only three days later that he hears even the faintest scratching.
  • Encouraged, he begins to look for some tool he can use to work at the cement between the stones in the wall.
  • He decides to break his water pitcher and sharpen the end of its handle into a point. He works all night, making little progress, but he's happy nonetheless.
  • The next day, the jailer doesn't seem too concerned about the broken pitcher; he merely finds Edmond a new one.
  • Edmond realizes that, had he spent the last few years working like this, he could have been out, or at least been closer to escaping; though he's disheartened, he doesn't give up, and in three day's time he's managed to loosen a stone.
  • Unfortunately, he can't seem to move the stone any further, at least not with his current tools.
  • To make a long story short, he comes up with a way to get a hold of the metal handle on the tin soup pot the jailer brings every day.
  • Using the handle, he's able to dig deeper, but he runs into an obstacle: a large beam in the wall.
  • He cries out in despair only to hear a voice from below answer his cry.
  • The two voices get to talking. Edmond introduces himself and, when asked, describes the location of his cell.
  • The other voice/person is distressed. He was under the impression that he'd been digging toward an exterior wall and would soon open up a tunnel to the sea, from which he could escape.
  • The voice then introduces himself as Number 27. He tells Edmond to close up his hole, conceal everything and wait for his signal.
  • Edmond, afraid of never hearing from 27 again, pleads with him to return soon.
  • Number 27, reassured by Edmond's youth, promises to return soon.
  • After sealing up the hole, Edmond is overcome with joy.
  • Number 27 calls the next day, soon after the jailer leaves Edmond's cell. They decide that the coast is clear and, like that, a man, a whole man emerges from the hole.
FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 15/01/2025 11:53

Really brilliant. He fooled them saying he was working out a theorem (I think!).

LuckyMauveReader · 15/01/2025 10:51

@FuzzyCaoraDhubh I was gripped by the slew of emotions Dante went through. To then have a plan of escape. Brilliant! The mindless scribbling of a deranged man was actually a calculation of how to break out.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 15/01/2025 10:02

Great chapter today! Shades of 'The Shawshank Redemption' :)

Orland0 · 14/01/2025 22:54

So Villefort is Chief Villain, the swine! Morrel and Mercedes are decent folk, but can’t do anything more for Edmond right now. Danglars, Fernand and Caderousse may have gone off to do different things but I hope they pop up later for Edmond to exact his revenge. R.I.P Dantes Snr. And Bon voyage Napoleon 😃

I also like Noitier’s panache, I have a feeling there is more to come from him - at least I hope there is.

[Apologies if I’m mangling the spelling of any names, I’m listening to the audio book, so not seeing them each time I listen]

MamaNewtNewt · 14/01/2025 22:49

I also felt really sorry for Dantes. Bad enough to be an innocent man in prison, but to not even have a trial, or to know what the charges are is terrible.

JaninaDuszejko · 14/01/2025 21:18

It's dreadful that he could be imprisoned without trial on the whim of a single man. Are Dantès and the Abbé in cells close enough that they can communicate. Neither are mad, despite the governor claiming they are.

TonTonMacoute · 14/01/2025 19:48

He has been 'buried in the system even deeper than before.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 14/01/2025 10:36

Poor Edmond. Really felt for him in this chapter.

Orland0 · 14/01/2025 10:32

Chapter 14
The Raving Prisoner and the Mad One

  • It's a year a later and Louis XVIII is back on the throne.
  • The Inspector General of Prisons has decided to make a trip down to the Chateau d'If to see how things are.
  • Edmond, made hyper-sensitive to noise by his year in prison, knows something's up. The inspector does his job, asking prisoners if they have any complaints or requests. The food, they complain, is awful; freedom is their only request.
  • Though the inspector realizes how silly it is to be doing this kind of thing – he hears the same thing everywhere – he still takes it upon himself to visit the prison's "special" inmates down in the dungeons. The governor gets two soldiers to accompany them down – just in case.
  • The inspector is told that Edmond has been thrown in the dungeon – a place he finds horribly disgusting – for threatening to kill a porter. Still, despite the smell, and the fact that Edmond and his fellow prisoner are pretty much insane – he visits them anyway.
  • Seeing the inspector, Edmond summons up some hidden eloquence and tries to get the inspector to help him. All he wants, he says, is to know what crime he has committed, and to be given a fair trial; he even asks forgiveness for threatening the porter.
  • The inspector is touched by his requests, and he agrees to look at his file once they get upstairs.
  • Edmond tells the inspector that Villefort, the prosecutor, was kind to him, and that any notes that he might have left will prove his innocence.
  • Before heading upstairs to look at the records, the inspector makes a stop at the other cell.
  • Inside he finds the Abbé Faria drawing a very precise geometrical pattern on the ground. Upon hearing the inspector enter, the abbé covers himself up, trying his best to look presentable.
  • The inspector asks if he has any requests. He does not. The abbé tells the inspector that he's been in jail since 1811, that the food is awful, and the lodging despicable. He goes on to say he has something else very important to tell him.
  • He proceeds to promise him a huge amount of money – millions of francs – in exchange for his release. This is exactly the kind of thing that the abbé is known for, and the inspector has been warned in advance.
  • The abbé goes on to tell the inspector that he is not mad, that the treasure exists, and that he knows where, exactly where, it is stashed.
  • When the inspector will not listen to him, the abbé says good riddance and goes back to his calculations.
  • His tour done, the inspector heads back upstairs to check on Edmond's records. There he finds a short note:
  • EDMOND DANTÈS:
  • Fanatical Bonapartist. Played an active role in the return from Elba. To be kept in solitary confinement, under the closest supervision.
  • All the inspector can bring himself to do is write "no action" on the file.
  • The inspector's visit gives Edmond hope, but the longer he waits, the less he believes he ever even received a visit from the inspector.
  • A year after the inspector's visit, a new governor is installed in the prison. The governor cannot even be bothered to learn his prisoners' names. Edmond Dantès becomes Number 34.
JaninaDuszejko · 14/01/2025 06:27

Morrel did as much as he could, he had a small window when Napoleon was in charge again when he had a hope of getting Edmund out but once the monarchy was restored there was no chance.

I'm sure Fernand will turn up again, conscription could mean death or it could mean progression up the social ladder (potentially making him more attractive to Mercedes) and I can't see Dumas wasting a character like that.

Agree that Noirtier is a more attractive character than Villefort. I look forward to seeing him again at some point.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 13/01/2025 22:39

It sounds like we won't hear from Danglars again. I was sad about Dantès Senior's death. Fair dues to Morrel for covering costs and trying to help Edmond.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/01/2025 22:18

Agree chapter 13 is fast moving, it ties up all of the original protagonists.

How awful that old Dantes is dead. I'm glad Morrell has done the right thing. It was also touching to see that Mercedes was there when he died.

Villefort really is despicable.

I wonder whether Fernande will return from the conscription?

And Danglers has he no shame?