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I would like to read books about the Middle Ages, or earlier

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floorchid · 15/10/2024 09:34

This is a very new interest so I'm not entirely sure what I'm asking. I think early Middle Ages first because chronological learning appeals to me - just after the Roman's left perhaps? And then I can go on with anything up to the Norman conquest? But perhaps onwards too?

I'm interested in realistic historical fiction, easy-to-read nonfiction, or biographies. Nothing too dry or hardgoing. I'm just dipping my toe.

But actually, maybe I also want to know about the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes. They were before the Romans, weren't they?

And I want to read about the monarchy too.

I think my question is, where do I start?

What have you read that you would recommend?

Thank you.

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violetsunrise · 02/11/2024 22:55

Oceangreyscale · 02/11/2024 22:44

Shadow of the Crown by Patricia Bracewell is good Anglo Saxon historical fiction, there's a trilogy.

Bernard Cornwell too.

Karen Maitland has written some great books set in the 14th century in Britain
Company of Liars https://g.co/kgs/woqVNWF

Rosemary Sutcliffe and Henry Treece for Romans, Vikings, Bronze Age I read as a teenager/kid but not sure how they will have dated.

There's a series of non fiction books called The Time Travellers Guide to... which I recommend on day to day life in different historical periods. I'm more interested in that side of things than the monarchy personally, but for royal history you can't beat the genius that is Hilary Mantel.

I'm sure I'll think of others!

Company of Liars was an excellent read as was The Owl Killers. I wasn’t so keen on her others - a bit surreal or something.

RampantIvy · 02/11/2024 22:53

Makelikeatreeandleaf · 16/10/2024 09:04

Bit later than your proposed time frame but my favourite book ever is Katherine, by Anya Seton. It's just brilliant.

As an aside, @Pixiedust1234 - I never knew Jean Plaidy and Victoria Holt were one and the same!

Neither did I.

Another vote for The Pillars of the Earth. So easy to read and unputdownable.

wrongthinker · 02/11/2024 22:52

Oh and The Canterbury Tales, Geoffrey Chaucer. I don't know if there's a modern translation - assume there must be, although it's easy enough to get to grips with the language.

Oceangreyscale · 02/11/2024 22:50

Thanks for this thread, I'll be referring back for reading inspiration!

violetsunrise · 02/11/2024 22:50

Some of my favourite reads are:

The White Ship - Charles Spencer (about the loss of Henry I’s heir in the sinking of the White Ship and the impact of that). Really like his style of writing and also liked Killers of the King although it’s a far later period of time (Charles I execution and what happened to the regicides after).

Katherine - Anya Seton (about John of Gaunt’s mistress and later wife Katherine Swynford).

Any of Sharon Penman’s novels.

Oceangreyscale · 02/11/2024 22:44

Shadow of the Crown by Patricia Bracewell is good Anglo Saxon historical fiction, there's a trilogy.

Bernard Cornwell too.

Karen Maitland has written some great books set in the 14th century in Britain
Company of Liars https://g.co/kgs/woqVNWF

Rosemary Sutcliffe and Henry Treece for Romans, Vikings, Bronze Age I read as a teenager/kid but not sure how they will have dated.

There's a series of non fiction books called The Time Travellers Guide to... which I recommend on day to day life in different historical periods. I'm more interested in that side of things than the monarchy personally, but for royal history you can't beat the genius that is Hilary Mantel.

I'm sure I'll think of others!

Company of Liars - Google Search

https://g.co/kgs/woqVNWF

GranPepper · 02/11/2024 22:41

floorchid · 02/11/2024 22:13

I have bought Pillars of the Earth.

Have requested a few others for my birthday.

I've also been listening to podcasts - I like Dan Snow's History Hit best.

Gone Medieval also okay. I loved something I found from In Our Time.

I'm finding that because my baseline knowledge is zero, I keep heading off down rabbit holes. I kept hearing, "of course, Bede says XYZ, but how trustworthy is Bede?" (historical chuckle) and I have no idea how trustworthy Bede is (?!) so I have to go off and read all about Bede so I get the reference. (Big Bede fan, btw)

Eleanor of Aquitane was the same. They reference her and assume I know who / when / what she was. I had to do a little E of A detour.

I'm jumping around all over the place, but trying to stay earlier than the Tudors. I also wanted to stay later than the romans, but the rise and 'fall' (? not really) of the roman empire is fascinating so I've strayed a bit.

Now it's Lindisfarne. The historians assume I know what that is. I don't! It's a monastery, I think (Bede studied there), and so did Wilfrid the Warrior Bishop. But it's also a big part of Viking history - was it the first place we know they raided? Unsure. Gaps in knowledge to fill.

You should definitely try and go to Lindisfarne (AKA the Holy Isle). I've been twice. It's a lovely place. It's in Northumberland, also a lovely area. You can only drive in at certain times of the day via a causeway which goes under water when the tide is in. The tide times are published each day. There is a large car park on the left as you reach the main area (chargeable but not a fortune). Walk down the road and there's people selling local produce, a little hotel, nice little local shops, a beautiful coastal walk, an old Church and graveyard, visitor centre and more. Not far away is the delightful village of Bamburgh, lovely little hotels and shops (and a famous, imposing castle which has been used in many modern films including the most recent Indiana Jones film). Bamburgh is also where Grace Darling was born (and is buried in a prominent grave). Grace was a lighthouse keeper's daughter who famously saved a ship and its passengers from being shipwrecked. She died not long afterwards aged in her 20s from TB. In short, if you can go, yes, if you're interested in ancient history, I think you'd maybe like Lindisfarne

wrongthinker · 02/11/2024 22:38

The Buried Giant by Kazuo Ishigiru is one of the best books I've ever read. It's beautiful.

Sandytoesandcrabs · 02/11/2024 22:36

motherofsnortpigs · 15/10/2024 09:58

Anthony Bale’s book A Travel Guide to the Middle Ages is great (non fiction)
Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett is an extraordinary piece of fiction set in the 1100’s (it’s really long, my Kindle estimated it would take me 28 hours to read. A novel usually takes me about 4!)

Pillars of the Earth is my favorite book ever. Read everything by Ken Follet but start here.

violetsunrise · 02/11/2024 22:27

I’d avoid Ken Follett like the plague. I like my historical fiction but Pillars of the Earth made my eyes bleed - his portrayal of medieval life doesn’t compare to anything else I’ve read. And yes I know, it’s fiction so the author has some license, but his version just doesn’t ring true. Too many sex scenes that add nothing to the whole as well (and I’m no prude).

Givemethreerings · 02/11/2024 22:23

Kazuo Ishiguro’s 2015 novel The Buried Giant is set in this period, just after the Romans left. I found it a wonderful read with reflections on communities, and also memory.

It’s pure fiction, with some small fantasy elements but very elegant visualisation of the dark ages.

He said it’s a book he’d wanted to write for many decades but had to wait until he’d built up enough credibility in his career (due to the fantasy elements- Arthurian legend)

floorchid · 02/11/2024 22:13

I have bought Pillars of the Earth.

Have requested a few others for my birthday.

I've also been listening to podcasts - I like Dan Snow's History Hit best.

Gone Medieval also okay. I loved something I found from In Our Time.

I'm finding that because my baseline knowledge is zero, I keep heading off down rabbit holes. I kept hearing, "of course, Bede says XYZ, but how trustworthy is Bede?" (historical chuckle) and I have no idea how trustworthy Bede is (?!) so I have to go off and read all about Bede so I get the reference. (Big Bede fan, btw)

Eleanor of Aquitane was the same. They reference her and assume I know who / when / what she was. I had to do a little E of A detour.

I'm jumping around all over the place, but trying to stay earlier than the Tudors. I also wanted to stay later than the romans, but the rise and 'fall' (? not really) of the roman empire is fascinating so I've strayed a bit.

Now it's Lindisfarne. The historians assume I know what that is. I don't! It's a monastery, I think (Bede studied there), and so did Wilfrid the Warrior Bishop. But it's also a big part of Viking history - was it the first place we know they raided? Unsure. Gaps in knowledge to fill.

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GranPepper · 01/11/2024 22:35

motherofsnortpigs · 15/10/2024 09:58

Anthony Bale’s book A Travel Guide to the Middle Ages is great (non fiction)
Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett is an extraordinary piece of fiction set in the 1100’s (it’s really long, my Kindle estimated it would take me 28 hours to read. A novel usually takes me about 4!)

Definitely agree Pillars of the Earth is brilliant

JuliaLivilla · 01/11/2024 20:40

I second Edward Rutherford's books. Very readable. Plus Ken Follet's.

If I remember correctly, some of Norah Loft's books cover that time frame, although most of hers are later. I think A Wayside Tavern, The Knight's Acre trilogy and I met a Gypsy would cover your brief, but you might want to check for specifics on Fantastic Fiction.

Another2Cats · 01/11/2024 20:25

Dappy777 · 01/11/2024 18:07

Michael Wood: In Search of the Dark Ages

Terry Jones: Medieval Lives

They both made a series to accompany the book, which you can still see on Youtube.

"Michael Wood"

I remember him giving a talk at our university in either 1985 or 1986 (I think it was 1985). He was really quite good looking back then.

Although I do also remember that most people bailed out at the end of the talk and didn't stay for questions as it was near to last orders and many people wanted a drink in the union bar.

GMH1974 · 01/11/2024 19:30

*Pegg not Peggy sorry

GMH1974 · 01/11/2024 19:29

I've also recently got into this subject. A couple of the best non fiction I've read are Beatrice's Last Smile : A New History of the Middle Ages by Mark Gregory Peggy and Dark Queens by Shelley Puhak. The novels of Elizabeth Chadwick are set in the medieval period. There's an absolutely excellent exhibition about medieval women on at the British Library at the moment too.

CrystalSingerFan · 01/11/2024 19:21

YellowPolkaDotBikini1980 · 16/10/2024 09:20

Haven't read the thread. Cadfael mysteries. 12th century monk. Very well written imo.

Cadfael's great!

Londonmummy66 · 01/11/2024 18:52

Maybe a little late for you but Isolde Martin's novels are very engaging and well researched as are JP Reedman's Medieval Babes series (ignore the naff name - the books are good). Slightly earlier are Joanna Courtney's Queens of Conquest series which are based on the women on both sides of the Norman Conquest - think all of these are available on Kindle Unlimited

Dappy777 · 01/11/2024 18:07

Michael Wood: In Search of the Dark Ages

Terry Jones: Medieval Lives

They both made a series to accompany the book, which you can still see on Youtube.

IVFmumoftwo · 31/10/2024 15:49

Sharon Penman has a lot of medieval books. Some focused on royalty in the 12-14th century. Some about the Welsh.

Helen Hollick has several books on royal women just before the Norman conquest.

IVFmumoftwo · 31/10/2024 15:37

Makelikeatreeandleaf · 16/10/2024 09:04

Bit later than your proposed time frame but my favourite book ever is Katherine, by Anya Seton. It's just brilliant.

As an aside, @Pixiedust1234 - I never knew Jean Plaidy and Victoria Holt were one and the same!

Phillipa Gregory is okay but too much Tudor for me!

IVFmumoftwo · 31/10/2024 15:34

floorchid · 15/10/2024 09:34

This is a very new interest so I'm not entirely sure what I'm asking. I think early Middle Ages first because chronological learning appeals to me - just after the Roman's left perhaps? And then I can go on with anything up to the Norman conquest? But perhaps onwards too?

I'm interested in realistic historical fiction, easy-to-read nonfiction, or biographies. Nothing too dry or hardgoing. I'm just dipping my toe.

But actually, maybe I also want to know about the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes. They were before the Romans, weren't they?

And I want to read about the monarchy too.

I think my question is, where do I start?

What have you read that you would recommend?

Thank you.

Elizabeth Chadwick I recommend.

Daftasabroom · 31/10/2024 14:03

Just to open up the time frame a little I'd to nominate Pepys, The Unequalled Self by Claire Tomalin.

More than anything it captures so much of the everydayness and ordinaryness of an extraordinary person living in extraordinary times. It's like gossiping with a 390 year old neighbor.