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Cooper77 · 12/06/2024 17:41

This question seems to divide the room. Some love to re-read, others say it's a waste of time, since there are so many books out there and life is so short.

Personally, I'm very much in the re-read camp. In a lecture on Dickens, Nabokov said that you must "surrender to Dickens' voice," and I think that's the key. All the writers I re-read have a distinctive and comforting voice. When I pick up P. G. Wodehouse, for example, or Douglas Adams, it is unmistakably them. Same goes for my other favourite writers– Aldous Huxley, Anita Brookner, Bertrand Russell, Robert Graves, Virginia Woolf, etc. In many ways, re-reading them is as comforting as meeting up with a beloved friend.

I also read out loud. I suspect I developed the habit because I wanted to bring the author's voice alive. When you think about it, a book really is a kind of miracle. It's as if the soul or mind or consciousness (or whatever word you choose) of that dead author is in the room with you –especially when you read them out loud. One of my favourite books is Patrick Fermor's A Time of Gifts. But I don't read it for the content. I read it for the pleasure of his company. I've re-read that book so many times now it's like I know him.

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clarepetal · 19/06/2024 09:04

Hell yes

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 19/06/2024 08:53

FizzingAda · 12/06/2024 18:10

Absolutely! Some books are like old friends, to revisit after a few years,and find something new in them. I never get rid of books (apart from the odd paperback which turned out disappointing), my shelves just grow longer!

You have described my attitude to books perfectly too 👌.

Cooper77 · 16/06/2024 18:42

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/06/2024 17:35

Yes, very much so. Some books, once I finish them, I'll go straight back to the start and read them again. Nancy Turner's 'These is my Words' was like that and I lent it to a friend who said she read it four times back to back. It's true about hearing the book's voice too and that's a large part of what draws me back. In the book above, I could hear Sarah Prine's voice right from the start. I loved that woman and wanted her to be real so we could be friends.

I don't get why anyone would consider re-reading an odd thing. Would you only listen to a piece of music once? Re-reading lets you get right into the marrow of the story and you find bits you missed the first time, or the mood you're in will change how you see parts of the story.

Can't remember who it was now, but someone said 'Books are our silent friends' and it's true.

I think the main argument against re-reading is that there are so many books and so little time. Even reading the whole of Austen and Dickens would take several years, when you add in work, relationships, socialising, and so on. This is why I turn to critics like Harold Bloom and Frank Kermode. Since there is so little time, I need guidance to what is best.

Some make the case (not sure I agree, but you can make the case) that instead of reading widely we should aim to read deeply. In other words, the vast majority of books aren’t worth reading. It’s not that they’re bad, just that others have done it better. Why read Hemingway’s war stories, for example, when you can read The Iliad and War and Peace, both of which tackle war more deeply and profoundly than Hemingway ever could. Instead, we ought to focus on the 100 or so truly great works, and just read and re-read them, sinking ever deeper each time.

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BeaRF75 · 16/06/2024 17:38

Yes. I buy lots of books, but always in the expectation that each one will be read at least 2 or 3 times.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/06/2024 17:37

“Books are the quietest and most constant of friends; they are the most accessible and wisest of counsellors, and the most patient of teachers.”
― Charles W. Eliot

Lovely.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/06/2024 17:35

Yes, very much so. Some books, once I finish them, I'll go straight back to the start and read them again. Nancy Turner's 'These is my Words' was like that and I lent it to a friend who said she read it four times back to back. It's true about hearing the book's voice too and that's a large part of what draws me back. In the book above, I could hear Sarah Prine's voice right from the start. I loved that woman and wanted her to be real so we could be friends.

I don't get why anyone would consider re-reading an odd thing. Would you only listen to a piece of music once? Re-reading lets you get right into the marrow of the story and you find bits you missed the first time, or the mood you're in will change how you see parts of the story.

Can't remember who it was now, but someone said 'Books are our silent friends' and it's true.

ilovesushi · 16/06/2024 17:22

Cooper77 · 16/06/2024 13:17

Do you re-read the entire book? This also seems to divide the room. Some like to re-read from cover to cover, others prefer to dip in and out. I’m a dipper. I mark favourite chapters and paragraphs and then re-read them (often out loud). The only books I have re-read from cover to cover are Fermor’s A Time of Gifts, Waugh’s Brideshead Revisited and Wodehouse’s Joy in the Springtime.

There are books I want to re-read slowly and carefully. I just don’t get the time. I would definitely like to re-read Bill Bryson’s Short History of Nearly Everything and also Douglas Adams’ Hitchhiker series. He’s full of such interesting ideas.

Yes, the whole thing always. I am definitely a start at the start and go through all the way to the end reader, though I will abandon a book after a few pages if it's not doing it for me. I can't imagine just dipping in. That feels completely wrong.

dudsville · 16/06/2024 13:38

I do re-read. I read so many great works of literature when I was young, but I'm naturally quite naiive and when I realised this I did start going back over so many books. I've also found that different ages offer up different perspectives and that brings a new richness to a familiar story.

Cooper77 · 16/06/2024 13:17

ilovesushi · 16/06/2024 11:05

I'm not generally. I read a lot and I read very very quickly. But authors I come back to again and again to reread are Jane Austen particularly Persuasion, Barbara Pym and Richmal Crompton particularly Narcissa and Caroline. Quite a random one but I find The Ravensworth Scholarship by Mrs Henry Clark (old schoolgirl story) a real comfort read, though the heroine goes through a very stressful time.

Do you re-read the entire book? This also seems to divide the room. Some like to re-read from cover to cover, others prefer to dip in and out. I’m a dipper. I mark favourite chapters and paragraphs and then re-read them (often out loud). The only books I have re-read from cover to cover are Fermor’s A Time of Gifts, Waugh’s Brideshead Revisited and Wodehouse’s Joy in the Springtime.

There are books I want to re-read slowly and carefully. I just don’t get the time. I would definitely like to re-read Bill Bryson’s Short History of Nearly Everything and also Douglas Adams’ Hitchhiker series. He’s full of such interesting ideas.

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ilovesushi · 16/06/2024 11:19

And anything by Mrs Henry Wood/ Ellen Wood and Wilkie Collins. I can read those authors again and again.

ilovesushi · 16/06/2024 11:05

I'm not generally. I read a lot and I read very very quickly. But authors I come back to again and again to reread are Jane Austen particularly Persuasion, Barbara Pym and Richmal Crompton particularly Narcissa and Caroline. Quite a random one but I find The Ravensworth Scholarship by Mrs Henry Clark (old schoolgirl story) a real comfort read, though the heroine goes through a very stressful time.

Cooper77 · 15/06/2024 23:07

MaxandMeg · 15/06/2024 18:38

I had an odd experience once in that I spent six months in a small wooden cabin in a Himalayan village, not electricity or plumbing and nobody spoke more than a few words of English. No other Westerners and the nineties, so no internet. I had only a few books with me and one was Our Mutual Friend. I just read it and when I finished I waited for a bit, then started it again. Seem to remember I was alternating it with Evelyn Waugh 'Put Out More Flags.' Probably read it 4 time at least.

Anyway, I read every night by the light of a single Chinese candle that used to fizz and pop and occasionally go out completely, darkness profound, strange night noises, a very singular environment. I became so familiar with the book that I used occasionally to have semi hallucinatory experience and catch whiffs of the tar and foetid mud of the Thames at Wapping Reach, or the spring vegetation of an English Lane (Himalayan spring vegetation smells completely different!) Once or twice I even felt the characters, or it might have been the author, not clear on that, were behind me looking over my shoulder, and I'd turn quickly, spooked.

I've reread it since with pleasure, but without the intensity.
I did wonder whether, in the past, in the days of fewer books and candlelight, readers did experience a more immersive experience, as I did then.
It's a very good book (luckily).

This is such an interesting post, thank you. I totally agree.

People used to have a far more intense relationships with books. They were treasured and revered. It’s hard for us to appreciate this, of course, living as we do in a world of TVs and IPods and desktops. Imagine a different world, however - one far quieter and emptier, where the only entertainment was the handful of books on your shelves.

We’ve also lost the habit of reading out loud. People used to read aloud to one another all the time (and presumably to themselves). I do this a lot, and I swear there is something therapeutic and healing about it. I urge anyone reading this post to try it for themselves. Next time you feel sad or lost, pile up your favourite books and read them out loud. You might feel a bit silly or self-conscious at first, but it passes. Doesn’t matter what the book is. It could be The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe or Sherlock Holmes. I swear by P G Wodehouse. He’s better than Prozac.

In Ancient Greece, words were thought to be powerful, even dangerous; and in many cultures poetry was thought indistinguishable from magic. When you stop and think what book is, it’s incredible. A book not only captures a long dead mind, but it captures that mind at the very limit of what it can think and express. Hamlet, for example, or Bleak House, give us not just Shakespeare and Dickens, but Shakespeare and Dickens at the height of their powers.

I have often fantasied about doing what you describe. I mean isolating myself with a great work and doing nothing but reading it out loud, memorising long passages, and absorbing it into my bones. It would be like downloading the author’s mind. What you describe doesn’t sound odd to me at all. If I locked myself away in a cottage by the sea, and did nothing all day but read, say, William Blake or Oscar Wilde, I’m sure I’d start hallucinating. And also having some pretty weird dreams.

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SeatedattheVirginals · 15/06/2024 20:15

Catnipcupcakes · 15/06/2024 18:44

Yes, absolutely! I have a lot of books that are old friends and that I re read constantly (no novels - I don’t read fiction) and some that come out occasionally for a little look, and if I don’t like a book on first go, it likely will be abandoned quickly and passed on to charity.

Why no fiction, @Catnipcupcakes ?

Catnipcupcakes · 15/06/2024 18:44

Yes, absolutely! I have a lot of books that are old friends and that I re read constantly (no novels - I don’t read fiction) and some that come out occasionally for a little look, and if I don’t like a book on first go, it likely will be abandoned quickly and passed on to charity.

vincettenoir · 15/06/2024 18:41

I’m not a re-reader but there are some seminal texts I read in my teens that I probably didn’t fully understand or appreciate at the time.

MaxandMeg · 15/06/2024 18:38

I had an odd experience once in that I spent six months in a small wooden cabin in a Himalayan village, not electricity or plumbing and nobody spoke more than a few words of English. No other Westerners and the nineties, so no internet. I had only a few books with me and one was Our Mutual Friend. I just read it and when I finished I waited for a bit, then started it again. Seem to remember I was alternating it with Evelyn Waugh 'Put Out More Flags.' Probably read it 4 time at least.

Anyway, I read every night by the light of a single Chinese candle that used to fizz and pop and occasionally go out completely, darkness profound, strange night noises, a very singular environment. I became so familiar with the book that I used occasionally to have semi hallucinatory experience and catch whiffs of the tar and foetid mud of the Thames at Wapping Reach, or the spring vegetation of an English Lane (Himalayan spring vegetation smells completely different!) Once or twice I even felt the characters, or it might have been the author, not clear on that, were behind me looking over my shoulder, and I'd turn quickly, spooked.

I've reread it since with pleasure, but without the intensity.
I did wonder whether, in the past, in the days of fewer books and candlelight, readers did experience a more immersive experience, as I did then.
It's a very good book (luckily).

ChessieFL · 14/06/2024 16:17

Definitely! Sometimes for comfort, sometimes because I want to revisit and see how clues fit together, sometimes because it’s just a really good story/writing.

Cooper77 · 14/06/2024 14:06

HumphreyCobblers · 14/06/2024 06:52

I do this. Yy to all of Austen when I am unwell! Robertson Davies is one of my most read authors. I don't always read all of an author obsessively though, the only Steinbeck I read again is East of Eden.

There were different books I read over and over in my teens that I haven't revisited for thirty years - I have just discovered an audible version of The Mists of Avalon by M Z Bradley and listening to it has brought my teenage years into focus as well as the story.

I am always so grateful that writers write books. My life has been so rich because of it and it is not something I could ever do. I agree with the pp that books are miracles.

It amazes me how such authors stand the test of time. There is something so moving about reading a classic like Pride and Prejudice or Wuthering Heights and knowing that so many people before you, in different cultures and places, have read exactly the same words. Patrick Fermor, for example, said he read and re-read David Copperfield while fighting behind enemy lines in Crete in WW2. And I remember an American POW saying he read a battered old copy of Jane Eyre while imprisoned in a bamboo hut in Vietnam.

It’s also striking the way certain writers appeal to certain types of people in certain types of situations. Why do so many find Jane Austen a comfort when they’re ill? Apparently, P G Wodehouse has always been exceptionally popular is psychiatric hospitals. He used to make a joke about this, but deep down he knew that there was something soothing and healing about his language. Think how many writers there have been over the last 250 years. And how many books. Yet time and again people reach for the same handful of great works. It’s so moving to think what authors like that achieved. Long after they died they’re still comforting people.

I always make a point of saying to non-readers that I don’t just read for entertainment. If I just wanted entertainment, I’d play video games and watch The Simpsons. I read for wisdom, guidance and support. Great books heal you at some deep, emotional level. James Joyce said once that Shakespeare’s plays are a solace for “all those whose minds have lost their balance.” But that’s true of great literature in general. Austen, the Brontes, Dickens, or any other writer who moves you, can re-balance your mind. Joyce nails it perfectly.

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HumphreyCobblers · 14/06/2024 06:52

I do this. Yy to all of Austen when I am unwell! Robertson Davies is one of my most read authors. I don't always read all of an author obsessively though, the only Steinbeck I read again is East of Eden.

There were different books I read over and over in my teens that I haven't revisited for thirty years - I have just discovered an audible version of The Mists of Avalon by M Z Bradley and listening to it has brought my teenage years into focus as well as the story.

I am always so grateful that writers write books. My life has been so rich because of it and it is not something I could ever do. I agree with the pp that books are miracles.

MsAmerica · 14/06/2024 02:01

I constantly re-read - to my detriment. I end up reading fewer books overall!

I think it may have been Susan Sontag who said something like, No book is worth reading unless it's worth reading several times. Except I'm sure she said it better than that.

Cooper77 · 13/06/2024 23:17

MaxandMeg · 13/06/2024 21:39

Absolutely a rereader. Of Dickens especially. Obviously of Jane - usually an annual canter through them all, especially if I'm slightly unwell. I'm also a fan of Paddy Leigh Fermor so yes to that. Harold Nicolson diaries, oddly, because I'm interested in the voice of the times. Anything that's too dense for single read, 'Middlemarch', for instance, or 'Portrait of a Lady.' Plugging through Proust for about the third time at the moment. Still not really getting it though there are glimmers..

I could say the same, word for word, about Proust. I was ploughing through volume one in French (dictionary by my side) until life, as always, got in the way.

Funny you should say you re-read Austen when unwell. I heard Stig Abell, the editor of the TLS, say he’d re-read Pride and Prejudice at least 100 times, and that when he had Covid it was the first thing he reached for. And Martin Amis said that no matter how many times he re-read P&P he always felt the same joy at Lizzie and Darcy’s marriage. It’s magic I tells ya, magic.

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MaxandMeg · 13/06/2024 21:39

Absolutely a rereader. Of Dickens especially. Obviously of Jane - usually an annual canter through them all, especially if I'm slightly unwell. I'm also a fan of Paddy Leigh Fermor so yes to that. Harold Nicolson diaries, oddly, because I'm interested in the voice of the times. Anything that's too dense for single read, 'Middlemarch', for instance, or 'Portrait of a Lady.' Plugging through Proust for about the third time at the moment. Still not really getting it though there are glimmers..

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/06/2024 21:13

RedHelenB · 12/06/2024 18:17

I re read my favourite bits, more than whole books nowadays

So glad it's not just me reading a bit of a favourite and not the whole thing.

Pritas · 13/06/2024 17:37

There are only a couple of books out of many thousands that I have read more than once. It's why I'm trying to get rid of all my books.

Cooper77 · 13/06/2024 17:23

I said in an earlier post that I re-read because I love the voice of a particular author. When I pick up Patrick Fermor’s Time of Gifts, for example, or a collection of essays by Bertrand Russell or Douglas Adams, their voice is unmistakable. But there are also fictional voices I love. I love Bertie Wooster’s sweet, cheerful, self-mocking voice, for example. He narrates the Jeeves and Wooster novels, so in theory it is his voice we’re hearing, not Wodehouse’s. Harold Bloom said that the greatest characters escape their author and establish a life of their own. This is especially true (according to Bloom) of Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Jane Austen, Tolstoy, Proust and a handful of others.

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