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Did She Fall Or Was She Pushed? Dangerous Liaisons Readalong 2024

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BishyBarnyBee · 15/04/2024 08:14

Following a series of successful Fallen Women readalongs - War and Peace, Anna Karenina, Madame Bovary, Ruth - we continue our exploration of desire, hypocrisy, disgrace and redemption with the earlier (and even more scandalous) Dangerous Liaisons.

Widely adapted in text, film, opera and even ballet, Les Liaisons Dangereuses is an epistolatory novel comprising 175 letters.

Author Chodelos de Laclos "resolved to write a book that would be quite outside the ordinary trend, which would make a sensation and echo over the world after I left it." His book was a succès de scandale on its 1782 publication, reviewed as "diabolique" while becoming an instant bestseller. Marie Antoinette commissioned a blank cover copy for her library, and Virginia Woolf later read it with "great delight".

Readalongs are Mumsnet's best kept secret - a quiet corner of the site where we tackle the books we might not manage alone, sharing our thoughts and reactions, and encouraging each other to keep going when life - or the book - are challenging. It's fine to dip in and out as life permits, very few of us manage to keep up consistently.

We've only heard good things about DL, so do join us for a cracking good read. We start 1st May, 1 letter a day:

1 - 31 May Letters 1 - 31
1 - 30 June Letters 32 - 61
1 - 31 July Letters 62 - 92
1 - 31 August Letters 93 - 123
1- 30 September 124 - 153
1 - 22nd October 154 - 175

There are summaries of each letter at shmoop.com. I'll post them when I can, but anyone is welcome to start us off if you are first here on the day.

Looking forward to it!


Les Liaisons dangereuses (Dangerous Liaisons) Summary

Free summary and analysis of the events in Pierre Ambroise François Choderlos de Laclos's Les Liaisons dangereus...

Les Liaisons dangereuses (Dangerous Liaisons) Summary

Free summary and analysis of the events in Pierre Ambroise François Choderlos de Laclos's Les Liaisons dangereuses (Dangerous Liaisons) that won't make you snore. We promise.

https://www.shmoop.com/study-guides/dangerous-liaisons/summary.html

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BishyBarnyBee · 26/04/2024 12:40

That's so helpful, @ViscountessMelbourne. I hadn't realised that when I wrote the schedule for the opening post. I don't want to muddy the waters by changing the dates now, so I guess I need to post the summaries of the Publisher's Note and Editor's Preface before Wednesday. Shall I do one tomorrow and one on Monday? Hope this won't mean some people feel they are behind before we even get started.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 26/04/2024 12:33

Doing more research on the Kindle editions and this came up 😄noooo.....

That's a lovely hardback @ViscountessMelbourne

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ViscountessMelbourne · 26/04/2024 12:30

Here's my boring but elegant copy.

Quick heads up to beginners that while you can skip the introduction if your edition gives you one, you shouldn't skip the "Publisher's Note" or "Editor's Preface": they are part of the novel.

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Did She Fall Or Was She Pushed? Dangerous Liaisons Readalong 2024
BishyBarnyBee · 26/04/2024 12:17

Very much a Mills and Boon vibe here:

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BishyBarnyBee · 26/04/2024 12:15

Brooding Heroine from Penguin Classics.

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BishyBarnyBee · 26/04/2024 12:14

Also inoffensive, but not sure what Brooding Hero is doing here - opening the curtains?

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BishyBarnyBee · 26/04/2024 12:10

A few more covers to keep us ticking over until we start. I thought this one from Barnes Noble was quite elegant and not offensive!

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BishyBarnyBee · 26/04/2024 12:06

@Brie2001 of course! Will be great to have you on board. We start on Wednesday, I'm really looking forward to it.

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Brie2001 · 26/04/2024 09:41

Can I join? I'm a long-time fan of the film and never read the book. I've downloaded a Kindle sample from Amazon and it goes up to letter 21.

BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 15:19

ViscountessMelbourne · 22/04/2024 15:07

The book is quite a lot more lesbian than you might imagine.

That's what I assumed, and originally wrote that it was great they had centre staged the two women, then edited my post when I saw the bigger image and thought I'd misread it and it was a man.

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ViscountessMelbourne · 22/04/2024 15:07

BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:44

I thought this was two women, but just seen a bigger version and I think it's a man. But at least the recipient doesn't look as if she is being assaulted, even if she's not exactly pursuing the embrace.

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The book is quite a lot more lesbian than you might imagine.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 22/04/2024 14:46

Yes @Buttalapasta that's why I hesitated buying them. I'll see!

BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 14:41

FestiveAuntFanny · 22/04/2024 14:33

This is from a famously saucy image

Definitely more saucy and less passive there!

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Buttalapasta · 22/04/2024 14:35

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 22/04/2024 14:10

So many covers! Laughing at the 'manly calf'😅The one posted by Vicomte is the most respectable one by far. Nothing going on here at all.

I've downloaded two samples on Kindle. The French one looks awkward and cringy and passive.
The English one is a strangely romanticised image that seems out of place considering the others.

I might look around again before I buy these two.

Classics on Kindle are frequently bizarre. I think it's because people repackage out of copyright texts to try and make a bit of cash. I once bought an Oliver Twist that had been sifted through Google translate a couple of times and had no resemblance to Dickens. 😄 My Kindle copy of Ruth was touted as "illustrated" but the illustrations had NOTHING to do with the story. Luckily, they dried up after the first few chapters anyway.

FestiveAuntFanny · 22/04/2024 14:33

BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:41

This is another Penguin version, which is better, though you could argue it's a very passive foot!

This is from a famously saucy image

FestiveAuntFanny · 22/04/2024 14:30

Buttalapasta · 17/04/2024 09:59

Just picked up my copy from the library - excited! I'm trying not to buy any more books so I had to get in French - will probably crack and buy the translation if it's too hard. 😅

Will ( belatedly) join you. Read it in English many years ago at uni and loved it. Interested to see how it is now and if I can cope with the slightly archaic french.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 22/04/2024 14:10

So many covers! Laughing at the 'manly calf'😅The one posted by Vicomte is the most respectable one by far. Nothing going on here at all.

I've downloaded two samples on Kindle. The French one looks awkward and cringy and passive.
The English one is a strangely romanticised image that seems out of place considering the others.

I might look around again before I buy these two.

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Did She Fall Or Was She Pushed? Dangerous Liaisons Readalong 2024
VicomtedeValmont · 22/04/2024 13:59

I read this when I was younger but have long since lost the book so ordered a Kindle version for the readalong.

The cover is perfectly respectable Grin

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BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:55

I promise this really will be the last one from me today, but could not resist the combination of his manly calf kicking the door down and her matronly resistance. From a French edition of 1961.

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BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:51

And...not at all sure what's going on here but quite like the fact she's holding the door shut with a knowing look while incidentally falling out of her frock.

There are many, many more so feel free to have a look and share your favourites, or I might add some more later in the week.

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BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:44

I thought this was two women, but just seen a bigger version and I think it's a man. But at least the recipient doesn't look as if she is being assaulted, even if she's not exactly pursuing the embrace.

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BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:41

This is another Penguin version, which is better, though you could argue it's a very passive foot!

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BishyBarnyBee · 22/04/2024 13:38

I'm on Kindle too - the Penguin version - but have done a bit of browsing book covers. I loathe this one, which was used by Penguin and Folio, because it looks as though he is about to beat her, and she looks totally passive.

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AgualusasLover · 22/04/2024 11:19

The one hand kindle hold is a game changer. (Though I still buy my non fiction, writers I love in paper form).

CornishLizard · 22/04/2024 07:28

My (library) copy is the same!

i had no idea it was possible to hold tea in one hand and a kindle in the other. I’m nearly tempted to try a kindle, except I suspect I’d end up pouring my tea down myself.