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📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚

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MotherofPearl · 15/03/2024 18:12

Welcome to the Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group, where we read and discuss fiction from the 1930s to the 1990s that would have been described as 'contemporary' in its day.

The best introduction to the 'rather dated' concept would be to read the wonderful thread which inspired this group:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/4596284-rather-dated?reply=119670989

To summarise, a number of posters expressed disappointment that literature of the 20th Century is often dismissed as 'rather dated' because society has moved on from many of the values and lifestyles described.

Previous posters decided to create a reading group where the literary merits of such fiction can be appreciated, with any 'rather dated' elements being a point of interest rather than a reason to dismiss a novel.

We read one book a month. Our first book, that inspired the original thread, was The Road to Lichfield by Penelope Lively. We have been going for about 18 months now, and each new book gets its own discussion thread, started on the first of the month.

Our March 2024 book is Penelope Fitzgerald's The Bookshop. We will begin the discussion of this on 1 April.

Please do join the thread whether you want to take part in the discussion or just place mark to follow it.

Fellow Rather Dated people, please add anything important I might have missed!

(With huge thanks to ImJustMadAboutSaffron for the original thread and idea).

I hope Antarcticant, who started the last thread, won’t mind that I’ve started this new one.

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I just finished reading a book, published in 1977, set either 1975 or 1976. I went on Amazon to look at some reviews (I know these are not worth readi...

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 29/05/2026 11:16

Very nice, @Waawo. Thanks for sharing.
I'm about ten chapters in and enjoying it. It's very engaging. It takes unexpected twists and turns and I can't guess what's going to happen next. Also, the writing is really good.

Waawo · 29/05/2026 10:04

Terpsichore · 26/05/2026 23:13

I'll be reading it there too, I think 😊

There was a time when a copy of The Loved and the Envied, in the old Reprint Society edition, was in every secondhand bookshop everywhere, along with A Many-Splendoured Thing by Han Suyin, and Gertrude Lawrence as Mrs A by Richard Aldrich. DH and I used to take bets on who'd be the first to spot it. But I don’t think I ever actually bought it!

And here it is! Not the Reprint Society edition but the first edition from 1951. The dust jacket cover is quite bold for the time I think, illustration by Cecil Beaton.

📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚
TheGander · 27/05/2026 22:17

@Terpsichore now every charity shop has 50 shades of Grey, an assortment of Dan Browns, and the Salt Path.
We could probably also start a thread on library books of the 70s and 80s which you would never see on the shelves now as they’d be deemed unacceptable.

StellaOlivetti · 27/05/2026 18:46

Yep me too. Not read anything by her.

Terpsichore · 26/05/2026 23:13

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 26/05/2026 22:12

That's fine! I've found a copy of it on Internet Archive.

I'll be reading it there too, I think 😊

There was a time when a copy of The Loved and the Envied, in the old Reprint Society edition, was in every secondhand bookshop everywhere, along with A Many-Splendoured Thing by Han Suyin, and Gertrude Lawrence as Mrs A by Richard Aldrich. DH and I used to take bets on who'd be the first to spot it. But I don’t think I ever actually bought it!

Waawo · 26/05/2026 22:45

MotherofPearl · 26/05/2026 22:37

Great. Thanks all. I’ve ordered a second hand copy.

Same, AbeBooks to the rescue.

MotherofPearl · 26/05/2026 22:37

Great. Thanks all. I’ve ordered a second hand copy.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 26/05/2026 22:12

That's fine! I've found a copy of it on Internet Archive.

Waawo · 26/05/2026 21:51

MotherofPearl · 26/05/2026 21:27

I’m happy to opt for an Enid Bagnold for our next book. How about The Loved and the Envied?

I've read nothing by this author so I'm okay with any :)

Terpsichore · 26/05/2026 21:44

The Loved and the Envied sounds good, @MotherofPearl.

MotherofPearl · 26/05/2026 21:28

Yes like you @TerpsichoreI’d rather not choose National Velvet.

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MotherofPearl · 26/05/2026 21:27

I’m happy to opt for an Enid Bagnold for our next book. How about The Loved and the Envied?

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Terpsichore · 25/05/2026 11:05

👋👋 At @FuzzyCaoraDhubh Happy to try and move ahead with another book. Not so sure I'm enthused about National Velvet, having memories of the rather saccharine film, so if it's an Enid Bagnold, maybe one of her other books?! Or something else entirely?

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 24/05/2026 10:08

Shall we choose our next book for June?
I'm happy to go along with one by Enid Bagnold or another author.

MotherofPearl · 06/05/2026 16:09

I enjoyed Enid Bagnold’s The Squire, so would be happy to read another of her novels.

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CrochetGrannySquare · 06/05/2026 06:21

How about an Enid Bagnold (National Velvet)?

StellaOlivetti · 06/05/2026 00:56

Hello, everyone!
what shall we do for our May book?

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 28/04/2026 18:51

Hi @MotherofPearl ! Could you start us off, please? I'll join in. I finished it a few days ago and will look over it again later.

MotherofPearl · 28/04/2026 18:36

Thanks for sharing that from the Persephone Day @BookEngine. I read Crooked Cross last year and found it so compelling and thought-provoking. Very much looking forward to the sequel.

@FuzzyCaoraDhubhwould you like me to start the discussion thread for An Awfully Big Adventure? Or wait for a few days? I finished it last night.

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BookEngine · 27/04/2026 09:27

There was an excellent talk on the Crooked Cross and The Prisoner which has been abridged for BBC Radio.
Written and published in the mid 1930s, the English author describes the rise of Nazism though a very ordinary family.
Successful and eerily predictive, as real life events took over, the books quickly became forgotten.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002vm5y

The reviewer from the Guardian, the woman who abridged the text and Fran from Persephone easily filled an hour. Given recent world events, Persephone realised that republication was sadly apt.

BBC Radio 4 - The Prisoner by Sally Carson, Episode 1

The sequel to Sally Carson’s rediscovered masterpiece Crooked Cross.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002vm5y

MotherofPearl · 27/04/2026 08:09

BookEngine · 26/04/2026 20:30

Just back from the Persephone Book day in Bath. Joyous, sat in a room with a lot of well read, interesting women.
Obviously left with far too many new grey books but at least no one can tell wither it's a new one or just a grey one I've had for years.

Oh I am envious. I’ve done an online order of three books from Persephone (to get the three book discount), including the new one, The Prisoner. I’m looking forward to their arrival!

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 27/04/2026 07:45

Ha ha, BookEngine 😄
I'm glad you had a great time there.

BookEngine · 26/04/2026 20:30

Just back from the Persephone Book day in Bath. Joyous, sat in a room with a lot of well read, interesting women.
Obviously left with far too many new grey books but at least no one can tell wither it's a new one or just a grey one I've had for years.

Benvenuto · 23/04/2026 20:21

I’m over halfway through & agree that it’s hard to keep track of who everyone is in the theatre.

@Terpsichore- I visited Liverpool for the first time not so long ago & that has definitely helped with getting a sense of the setting. Pictures / footage of the city really don’t do justice to its grandeur & beauty and I don’t think I would have appreciated that aspect of the setting without a visit.

I’ve also read 2 children’s books about post-war theatre which have helped - Cuckoo in the Nest and A Spoonful of Jam by Michelle Magorian (author of Goodnight Mr Tom). These have a lot of detail about how a post-war repertory theatre worked, which is useful background knowledge.