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📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚

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MotherofPearl · 15/03/2024 18:12

Welcome to the Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group, where we read and discuss fiction from the 1930s to the 1990s that would have been described as 'contemporary' in its day.

The best introduction to the 'rather dated' concept would be to read the wonderful thread which inspired this group:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/4596284-rather-dated?reply=119670989

To summarise, a number of posters expressed disappointment that literature of the 20th Century is often dismissed as 'rather dated' because society has moved on from many of the values and lifestyles described.

Previous posters decided to create a reading group where the literary merits of such fiction can be appreciated, with any 'rather dated' elements being a point of interest rather than a reason to dismiss a novel.

We read one book a month. Our first book, that inspired the original thread, was The Road to Lichfield by Penelope Lively. We have been going for about 18 months now, and each new book gets its own discussion thread, started on the first of the month.

Our March 2024 book is Penelope Fitzgerald's The Bookshop. We will begin the discussion of this on 1 April.

Please do join the thread whether you want to take part in the discussion or just place mark to follow it.

Fellow Rather Dated people, please add anything important I might have missed!

(With huge thanks to ImJustMadAboutSaffron for the original thread and idea).

I hope Antarcticant, who started the last thread, won’t mind that I’ve started this new one.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 28/04/2026 18:51

Hi @MotherofPearl ! Could you start us off, please? I'll join in. I finished it a few days ago and will look over it again later.

MotherofPearl · 28/04/2026 18:36

Thanks for sharing that from the Persephone Day @BookEngine. I read Crooked Cross last year and found it so compelling and thought-provoking. Very much looking forward to the sequel.

@FuzzyCaoraDhubhwould you like me to start the discussion thread for An Awfully Big Adventure? Or wait for a few days? I finished it last night.

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BookEngine · 27/04/2026 09:27

There was an excellent talk on the Crooked Cross and The Prisoner which has been abridged for BBC Radio.
Written and published in the mid 1930s, the English author describes the rise of Nazism though a very ordinary family.
Successful and eerily predictive, as real life events took over, the books quickly became forgotten.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002vm5y

The reviewer from the Guardian, the woman who abridged the text and Fran from Persephone easily filled an hour. Given recent world events, Persephone realised that republication was sadly apt.

BBC Radio 4 - The Prisoner by Sally Carson, Episode 1

The sequel to Sally Carson’s rediscovered masterpiece Crooked Cross.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002vm5y

MotherofPearl · 27/04/2026 08:09

BookEngine · 26/04/2026 20:30

Just back from the Persephone Book day in Bath. Joyous, sat in a room with a lot of well read, interesting women.
Obviously left with far too many new grey books but at least no one can tell wither it's a new one or just a grey one I've had for years.

Oh I am envious. I’ve done an online order of three books from Persephone (to get the three book discount), including the new one, The Prisoner. I’m looking forward to their arrival!

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 27/04/2026 07:45

Ha ha, BookEngine 😄
I'm glad you had a great time there.

BookEngine · 26/04/2026 20:30

Just back from the Persephone Book day in Bath. Joyous, sat in a room with a lot of well read, interesting women.
Obviously left with far too many new grey books but at least no one can tell wither it's a new one or just a grey one I've had for years.

Benvenuto · 23/04/2026 20:21

I’m over halfway through & agree that it’s hard to keep track of who everyone is in the theatre.

@Terpsichore- I visited Liverpool for the first time not so long ago & that has definitely helped with getting a sense of the setting. Pictures / footage of the city really don’t do justice to its grandeur & beauty and I don’t think I would have appreciated that aspect of the setting without a visit.

I’ve also read 2 children’s books about post-war theatre which have helped - Cuckoo in the Nest and A Spoonful of Jam by Michelle Magorian (author of Goodnight Mr Tom). These have a lot of detail about how a post-war repertory theatre worked, which is useful background knowledge.

Terpsichore · 22/04/2026 10:43

It does demand concentration, I think. I might have an advantage in that I know the Liverpool setting very well (down to the theatre itself) so I can visualise it extremely vividly.

CrochetGrannySquare · 21/04/2026 18:15

There's an interesting reading guide on this on thebookerprizes.com website.

ChessieFL · 21/04/2026 17:39

I have finished it but also struggled to connect with any of it. Luckily it’s quite short!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 21/04/2026 17:11

Similar to MotherofPearl. I'm reading it in fits and starts which isn't helping. I'll finish it and then read it straight through again. I'm finding it hard to remember who the characters are too. It seems a bit disjointed to me.

MotherofPearl · 21/04/2026 16:00

CrochetGrannySquare · 21/04/2026 14:00

How are people finding An Awfully Big Adventure?

I loved it but I am finding that Bainbridge's style demands very close attention. Not saying that's a bad thing. The writing is so tight!

I’m about halfway through. I must admit that I’m struggling with it, but perhaps it’s that I’m not paying close enough attention. I can’t connect with any of the characters or the story. But I’ll keep going and hope it all comes together somehow.

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CrochetGrannySquare · 21/04/2026 14:00

How are people finding An Awfully Big Adventure?

I loved it but I am finding that Bainbridge's style demands very close attention. Not saying that's a bad thing. The writing is so tight!

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 14/04/2026 09:48

Part 2 tonight!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 14/04/2026 09:18

Yes, we are! Thanks for that, NoCommentingFromNowOn.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 13/04/2026 19:05

Are you the group that were reading Enchanted April? I remember seeing it in Active some time ago. If so, I’ve just seen the radio dramatisation of it is on 4extra today, the first episode of five.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b05rnx7m?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

The Enchanted April by Elizabeth von Arnim - 1. To Those who Appreciate Wisteria and Sunshine - BBC Sounds

An ad in The Times lures four women away from rainy London to a castle on the Riviera.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b05rnx7m?origin=share-mobile&partner=uk.co.bbc

CrochetGrannySquare · 12/04/2026 14:29

A bit later on, involving upholstery @Terpsichore but the Eccles cakes made me smile.

Terpsichore · 11/04/2026 20:39

CrochetGrannySquare · 10/04/2026 07:33

I'm about half way through An Awfully Big Adventure and have had a laugh out loud moment. Always pleasantly surprised when a book can do that.

Was it the Eccles cakes, @CrochetGrannySquare ? 😂

tobee · 11/04/2026 15:10

Hooray hooray! I love Beryl Bainbridge and have this in my tbr piles pile

Waawo · 11/04/2026 10:04

Look what just arrived :)

📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚
CrochetGrannySquare · 10/04/2026 07:33

I'm about half way through An Awfully Big Adventure and have had a laugh out loud moment. Always pleasantly surprised when a book can do that.

Terpsichore · 08/04/2026 20:43

CrochetGrannySquare · 08/04/2026 20:07

Oh, we're going to be reading the Booker Prize monthly spotlight pick for April.

Ha - that’s a total coincidence!

CrochetGrannySquare · 08/04/2026 20:07

Oh, we're going to be reading the Booker Prize monthly spotlight pick for April.

CrochetGrannySquare · 08/04/2026 02:33

Thanks for compiling the list of books read @Terpsichore

MotherofPearl · 07/04/2026 16:04

Thanks Fuzzy; that’s great. I’ll get cracking on An Awfully Big Adventure as soon as I’m back at home (currently on holiday in the beautiful Scottish Highlands). It’s great to see the full list of all the books we’ve read on the thread. My favourite so far was The Feast, I think.

At the moment I’m reading Mrs Ames by E.F. Benson, which I think someone on here recommended. I’m enjoying it very much indeed. The stakes are all so wonderfully low - a chance to really enter into parochial small town life and its pettiness!

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