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📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚

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MotherofPearl · 15/03/2024 18:12

Welcome to the Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group, where we read and discuss fiction from the 1930s to the 1990s that would have been described as 'contemporary' in its day.

The best introduction to the 'rather dated' concept would be to read the wonderful thread which inspired this group:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/4596284-rather-dated?reply=119670989

To summarise, a number of posters expressed disappointment that literature of the 20th Century is often dismissed as 'rather dated' because society has moved on from many of the values and lifestyles described.

Previous posters decided to create a reading group where the literary merits of such fiction can be appreciated, with any 'rather dated' elements being a point of interest rather than a reason to dismiss a novel.

We read one book a month. Our first book, that inspired the original thread, was The Road to Lichfield by Penelope Lively. We have been going for about 18 months now, and each new book gets its own discussion thread, started on the first of the month.

Our March 2024 book is Penelope Fitzgerald's The Bookshop. We will begin the discussion of this on 1 April.

Please do join the thread whether you want to take part in the discussion or just place mark to follow it.

Fellow Rather Dated people, please add anything important I might have missed!

(With huge thanks to ImJustMadAboutSaffron for the original thread and idea).

I hope Antarcticant, who started the last thread, won’t mind that I’ve started this new one.

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MotherofPearl · 16/06/2024 11:55

Oh good, glad you're still here Chessie.

I've not read Comyns before either, but in looking her up I see a new biography has been published this year, so this seems a good sign. The biography is:

https://manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/9781526173744/

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ChessieFL · 16/06/2024 11:37

I’m still here! I don’t always read every book suggested - depends if it’s something I fancy and how easily available it is - but I’m still following this thread and I do check in on the discussions about the books I haven’t read.

Happy with the Comyns suggestion, not come across her before.

MotherofPearl · 16/06/2024 10:51

I wonder if it's just us Fuzzy, or are others still following the group?

Have you read any Comyns before?

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 16/06/2024 10:31

Yes MotherofPearl! That sounds good.

MotherofPearl · 16/06/2024 10:24

Yes Fuzzy, we do need to choose something - we're already halfway through June.

I see upthread there was some discussion about Barbara Comyns. How about Our Spoons Came from Woolworths?

I am not keen on magic realism which I think is a feature of some of her novels?

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 16/06/2024 09:35

Has anyone any suggestions for our next book?

StellaOlivetti · 03/06/2024 06:33

I also adore Maugham, @Illegally18 . I have read him all my life, starting as a teenager with Liza of Lambeth. I have used Mrs Cradock and Theatre as relationship advice my whole life too: How Not To Do It.

Illegally18 · 02/06/2024 23:29

love the Cazalet Chronicles. I also love Somerset Maugham. What a writer! I read him a lot in the 80s. such elegance in his style

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 02/06/2024 21:10

Thanks MotherofPearl for the new thread. * *

MotherofPearl · 02/06/2024 19:19

📚 'Rather Dated' May: Lynne Reid Banks' 'The L-Shaped Room' 📚 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/whatweree_reading/5088059-rather-dated-may-lynne-reid-banks-the-l-shaped-room

I've started the thread to discuss our most recent book.

I didn't realise that Lynne Reid Banks has died very recently (4 April). I'm inspired to read more of her books.

We need to decide what's next.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/06/2024 15:59

olderbutwiser · 06/05/2024 20:45

I've just given up on Elizabeth Gaskell's Ruth - cannot take another sentence of it, I hope they all drown at the seaside and Mr B loses everything in the election.

Looking forward to The Sapling in the hope it it a bit more relatable. I'm very happy to take Rather Dated over Pious Waffle.

I have to say, I did like the encounter between Ruth and Mr Bellingham on the strand, but your post made me laugh olderbutwiser!

Terpsichore · 10/05/2024 19:27

Just an alert for any Dorothy Whipple fans who can get the London Live TV station - they’re broadcasting the 1945 film of her book 'They Were Sisters' on Sunday at midday (and repeated on Monday at 1pm) . It’s pretty good and James Mason is horribly convincing as an abusive husband - quite chillingly so. Recommended!

olderbutwiser · 06/05/2024 20:45

I've just given up on Elizabeth Gaskell's Ruth - cannot take another sentence of it, I hope they all drown at the seaside and Mr B loses everything in the election.

Looking forward to The Sapling in the hope it it a bit more relatable. I'm very happy to take Rather Dated over Pious Waffle.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/05/2024 12:46

Thank you @MotherofPearl
Looking forward to talking about Saplings on the new thread!

MotherofPearl · 01/05/2024 11:07

And just a reminder that Lynne Reid Banks' 'The L-Shaped Room' is our next book.

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MotherofPearl · 01/05/2024 11:06

I'm afraid I've rather fallen behind and only started 'Saplings' a few days ago. However, I have set up the discussion thread and will join you on there as soon as I've finished:

📚 'Rather Dated' April: Noel Streatfield’s ‘Saplings’ 📚 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/whatweree_reading/5066021-rather-dated-april-noel-streatfields-saplings

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inaptonym · 29/04/2024 18:36

@highlandcoo Amazing, thank you so much for the links! Glad to see the talk I most wanted to attend included - The Rise of Heritage Publishing.

StellaOlivetti · 29/04/2024 17:25

Just about to listen to Wild about Whipple. Thank you so much for the links, @highlandcoo

MotherofPearl · 29/04/2024 09:58

Yes, thanks @highlandcoo. I was at You're Booked and enjoyed the discussion very much. I'm going to try to listen to a few of the recordings over the next few weeks.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 29/04/2024 09:29

Thank you @highlandcoo That's brilliant!
I'm very interested in listening to the talk on Whipple and 'High Wages'.

highlandcoo · 28/04/2024 13:38

There's a link to the Persephone Festival talks on another thread, but I thought I'd repost it here for anyone who missed it and might be interested.

The recordings are available until 22 May and some popular Rather Dated books are discussed.

I didn't manage to get to all the events at the Festival but I can recommend You're Booked on Sunday morning and the Favourite Persephone Books panel discussions on Saturday and Sunday.

There was also a close reading of High Wages and two other books on Sunday morning which I found too much like a rather dry academic lecture, however I know some people enjoyed it.

I've just listened to the welcome talk while doing the ironing, and I'm going to work my way through the others in the next few weeks. I'm hoping the Wild about Whipple talk will be good.

https://persephonebooks.co.uk/pages/the-persephone-festival-podcasts

The Persephone Festival - Podcasts

The Persephone Festival took place in April 2024 to celebrate our 25th anniversary. It consisted of three days of events, based at our Bath bookshop and a few other venues across the city. Anyone who wasn't able to join us can now listen to the talks a...

https://persephonebooks.co.uk/pages/the-persephone-festival-podcasts

MotherofPearl · 17/04/2024 19:12

Thanks all. Glad we have a plan in place.

I hope I manage to get through Saplings by the end of the month. I've not started yet as I'm just finishing Elizabeth Cambridge's Hostages to Fortune, which I must confess I've found a little disappointing.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 17/04/2024 16:59

Hi @ImJustMadAboutSaffron that's right. Saplings first then the L-shaped room. I'm looking forward to both.

Edited to say we'll read 'Saplings' to discuss it in May and 'The L-Shaped Room' in June.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 17/04/2024 16:31

OK I am starting with Saplings, am I on the right track?

I have the L-shaped room trilogy at home, so I might go the whole hog. Did you know LRB died earlier this month? She was almost 95.

Lynne Reid Banks obituary

Bestselling author of the 1960 novel The L-Shaped Room and the children’s classic The Indian in the Cupboard

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/05/lynne-reid-banks-obituary

Terpsichore · 17/04/2024 12:49

London Belongs to Me is great, @StellaOlivetti - a real old-fashioned comforting saga of a book. I hope you enjoy it, please report back!

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