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📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚

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MotherofPearl · 15/03/2024 18:12

Welcome to the Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group, where we read and discuss fiction from the 1930s to the 1990s that would have been described as 'contemporary' in its day.

The best introduction to the 'rather dated' concept would be to read the wonderful thread which inspired this group:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/4596284-rather-dated?reply=119670989

To summarise, a number of posters expressed disappointment that literature of the 20th Century is often dismissed as 'rather dated' because society has moved on from many of the values and lifestyles described.

Previous posters decided to create a reading group where the literary merits of such fiction can be appreciated, with any 'rather dated' elements being a point of interest rather than a reason to dismiss a novel.

We read one book a month. Our first book, that inspired the original thread, was The Road to Lichfield by Penelope Lively. We have been going for about 18 months now, and each new book gets its own discussion thread, started on the first of the month.

Our March 2024 book is Penelope Fitzgerald's The Bookshop. We will begin the discussion of this on 1 April.

Please do join the thread whether you want to take part in the discussion or just place mark to follow it.

Fellow Rather Dated people, please add anything important I might have missed!

(With huge thanks to ImJustMadAboutSaffron for the original thread and idea).

I hope Antarcticant, who started the last thread, won’t mind that I’ve started this new one.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/03/2025 09:04

Happy First of March! I'm a bit late and haven't started the book yet. I'll get started this weekend.

HenryTilneyBestBoy · 22/02/2025 13:26

Sorry for the confusion - the Persephone Day page listed an event for The Expendable Man which is what brought it to mind! I agree with @Terpsichore that it might not be ideal for an online forum.

Does anyone else have suggestions for our next read though? For selfish reasons I'd prefer something post-1960.

BookEngine · 20/02/2025 10:37

I'm just about to read The Expendable Man, very intrigued by the twist. So NO SPOILERS!
Currently on Little Boy Lost by Laski (Persephone , reprint 1947) contrasting the post WW2 rhetoric about rebuilding Europe with Trump's bluster trying to tear us apart again.

BadSpellaSpellaSpella · 20/02/2025 10:32

I feel like a big SPOILERS warning in the title and the first post of the thread should be OK for the expendable man?

Terpsichore · 19/02/2025 23:58

In a Lonely Place is great too. It was made into a film noir.

@MotherofPearl I don’t think The Expendable Man lends itself to being a book club-type book, sadly, because as soon as you discuss it, you have to give away the stonking great plot twist that constitutes its main coup de theatre. I guess it’s fine if everyone's read it but there’s always likely to be someone who wanders unsuspectingly into the thread and feels let down that they now know the twist.

MotherofPearl · 19/02/2025 22:35

HenryTilneyBestBoy · 17/02/2025 13:29

@MotherofPearl LLA's a pageturner isn't it?! I hope you enjoyed it. Much less literary than Jill, ofc.

Wishing anyone going to Persephone Day a wonderful time. I'm going to Bath for a few Austenny things this year so can't justify it but hopefully they'll put recordings up like last year. And if anyone's yet to read The Expendable Man, please do so, unspoiled! The reveal is excellent.

I've also just enjoyed another Persephone - Wilfred and Eileen by Jonathan Smith. Anyone else here read it? Not nominating it for a group read as it's technically historical fiction (written 1970s, set 1910s) but highly recommended for fellow RD lovers.

I'll save my review of LLA for our discussion thread on 1 March, but I very much enjoyed it.

Is The Expendable Man our next book? Sounds intriguing.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 19/02/2025 22:08

My library has In A Lonely Place but not An Expendable Man Stella!

StellaOlivetti · 19/02/2025 22:03

I got mine from the library, @FuzzyCaoraDhubh

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 19/02/2025 19:56

Thank you for replying, Henry. I could buy the hardback on Amazon for 44 pounds (eek!) and the paperback isn't available. I'll look again!

HenryTilneyBestBoy · 19/02/2025 19:47

Fuzzy if you're after the Persephone ebook I hope these work: amazon and kobo ? My paper copy is actually American, NYRB classics if you're having trouble finding the Persephone.
There's a Penguin modern classics reprint of another by her, In A Lonely Place, which is also excellent, though much darker. I keep meaning to check out more of her books - my mum's a big fan - though they're so plotty it's hard to recommend in any detail.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 19/02/2025 16:57

I looked for The Expendable Man but couldn't find it in the usual places. Where did everyone get their copies?

StellaOlivetti · 17/02/2025 14:11

That sounds intriguing! I’ll have a go at The Expendable Man after LLA, which I’ve nearly finished.

Terpsichore · 17/02/2025 13:41

The Expendable Man is absolutely brilliant - agreed. And no spoilers!

HenryTilneyBestBoy · 17/02/2025 13:29

@MotherofPearl LLA's a pageturner isn't it?! I hope you enjoyed it. Much less literary than Jill, ofc.

Wishing anyone going to Persephone Day a wonderful time. I'm going to Bath for a few Austenny things this year so can't justify it but hopefully they'll put recordings up like last year. And if anyone's yet to read The Expendable Man, please do so, unspoiled! The reveal is excellent.

I've also just enjoyed another Persephone - Wilfred and Eileen by Jonathan Smith. Anyone else here read it? Not nominating it for a group read as it's technically historical fiction (written 1970s, set 1910s) but highly recommended for fellow RD lovers.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 14/02/2025 18:21

Newstartplease24 · 14/02/2025 11:33

Can I join? (Blatant placemarking)

Yes! You are very welcome!
Next book is Lady Living Alone by Norah Lofts. We'll* *discuss it in March.

Newstartplease24 · 14/02/2025 11:33

Can I join? (Blatant placemarking)

BookEngine · 13/02/2025 14:41

See you there @BadSpellaSpellaSpella I worried I'd crashed the thread with my brutal intrusion. (I read Messalina of the suburbs here last year)

I was so over excited when they announced the day and no one to share it with in real life.

BadSpellaSpellaSpella · 13/02/2025 09:41

Have a great time Stella, its a lovely bookshop. Also pop into Toppings while your in Bath its one of my favourite bookshops.

I have booked a couple of events on the Persephone day so thank you to the poster who put up that link.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 13/02/2025 06:53

That's brilliant Stella! Have a fantastic time. I would love to do that sometime.

MotherofPearl · 13/02/2025 06:20

Oh I'm jealous @StellaOlivetti. I considered going to Persephone Day in April (I enjoyed the Festival last year) but the timings just don't work for me this time.

I absolutely raced through LLL and finished it yesterday. For once I'm not behind!

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StellaOlivetti · 12/02/2025 20:43

i have just booked a city break in Bath! Planning to visit the Persephone bookshop. V excited.

Glitterbiscuits · 06/02/2025 15:55

Hello

I thought I'd peep around the door and see what's going on.

Has anyone read/ mentioned the Jalna novels by Mazo De La Roche?
They would fit nicely under the dated banner.

I have ordered the Norah Lofts book. I seem to remember my mum reading her books in the 70s and 80s. Along with Jean Plaidy.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 06/02/2025 09:57

Thread for Jill is up now! * *

Terpsichore · 05/02/2025 08:31

I haven’t started that one yet, @MotherofPearl !

MotherofPearl · 05/02/2025 08:19

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 05/02/2025 07:57

I'll start one today MotherofPearl!

Thanks.

Just downloaded Lady Living Alone and will make a start this evening so that I'm not last to finish this one!

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