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New Year, New Fallen Woman: Elizabeth Gaskell's Ruth Readalong

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BishyBarnyBee · 28/12/2023 07:42

Following the very successful Madame Bovary readalong, we have decided to explore another woman who refused to be bound by contemporary mores.
So shocking at the time, two of Gaskell's friends burnt their copies.

"Elizabeth Gaskell's Ruth (1853) was the first mainstream novel to make a fallen woman its eponymous heroine. It is a remarkable story of love, of the sanctuary and tyranny of the family, and of the consequences of lies and deception, one that lays bare Victorian hypocrisy and sexual double-standards. Shocking to contemporary readers, its radical utopian vision of a pure woman faithfully presented predates Hardy's Tess by nearly forty years."

We will aim for two chapters a week - a weekend chapter and a mid week chapter. If I have time, I'll try and do a ChatGPT chapter summary, but anyone else is welcome to jump in if I haven't got there first.

We start 1st Jan, so if you are up for a bit of Victorian passion, guilt, regret and redemption, sign up here!

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Piggywaspushed · 15/03/2024 15:17

I'm confused....when did we skip 22?

TerryWoganFanGirl · 15/03/2024 09:48

This chapter moved things on nicely after a few which were observational but slow in terms of story building. 21st century me thinks Ruth is a bit of a sap. He is a total bounder Ruth, he never loved you! But glad he and his fake name (why?) is back. Hope it means the story will continue to build at pace.

narniabusiness · 15/03/2024 08:05

This is a fantastic chapter imho. I had to bore my family with a synopsis of it I enjoyed it so much. I really didn’t expect him to turn up again under a different name. Then he’s just as slimy and manipulative as before (except we didn’t see all the details the first time). It was also a relief after the last chapter with its political electioneering theme (which I didn’t enjoy in Middlemarch and other 19thC novels- was it The Pickwick Papers? although obviously bearable in the Pallisers because Trollope keeps his subplots moving briskly).
I was willing Ruth to tell him where to go, because I guess we’ve all probably fallen for a cad when we were younger and despite knowing that they are one still hope that they will change for the better. But he won’t Ruth.

Piggywaspushed · 15/03/2024 06:02

I thought we were up to 22?

BishyBarnyBee · 14/03/2024 23:55

Hi, sorry this chapter is a little late, I was travelling yesterday and just didn't get chance to post.

Yes, things have moved on now and we see the trouble and sadness which was predicted in all Gaskell's hints about the folly of choosing to lie about Ruth's past.

It was only when I was writing the summary I realised that Donne uses religion twice to manipulate - drawing on the bible story of Ruth to confirm her name, and saying he won't and then will go to church. He is utterly shameless, isn't he?

I liked the way Ruth is conflicted in this chapter and the old feelings come back - she has worked so hard on her conduct and feelings, but here the old passion is reignited and his voice calls to her. This is a battle for her soul and only the power of God can conquer her passionate nature. I was so proud of her for her strength but also pleased Gaskell allowed her to have her desire too - we get some of the old Ruth back in this chapter.

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BishyBarnyBee · 14/03/2024 23:41

Chapter 23

In which our old villain has a new name but is up to the same old tricks. Ruth finds the strength to resist but realises that Leonard will be an inevitable connection between them.

The previously sparkling sea is dull and leaden on the day Bradshaw and Donne join the party at the sea-side. Ruth cannot see the newcomer in the dusk but when he speaks, she instantly recognises the voice that touched her girlish heart. Distraught, she can barely make her way back to the house and only the regular motion of walking can calm her. She excuses herself from the evening in the drawing room but is tormented by thoughts of what might have been, wondering again how he could have been so cruel. She is torn between making excuses for him, blaming herself and his mother and reluctantly accepting that there could be no excuse for his cruelty. Her love for Leonard helps her see that his father is a bad man, but her past love for him still pulls and she has to beg God for the strength to resist her feelings for him.

The next morning she observes him quietly in the breakfast room, noticing his restless and dissatisfied manner. He initially only thinks she resembles Ruth, but as she speaks, he becomes more convinced that it is her. He uses a bible story to trick the Bradshaw's into confirming her name, then manipulates the day's churchgoing so he can talk to her away from the other adults. She rebuffs him and he admires her pride and dignity. In church, her despair renders her unable to draw comfort from the peaceful marble statues but she is drawn to a suffering gargoyle which helps her to pray again for the strength she needs.

After the service he tries again to talk to her, and again she has to fight the old feelings and need to know why he left her. Her prayer for strength is answered and she is resolute, but collapses - as if the very bones had melted out of her - when she is alone.

Feeling he has neglected his duty as host, Bradshaw is determined to pay extra attention to his guest and the hours drag as Donne is unable to escape. In the evening, as she reads to the girls, he begs for 5 minutes alone with her but she avoids it.

As the gentlemen leave the next morning, Donne learns of Leonard's existence and asks "Our child?" The misery and terror in her face confirm the truth, and he realises that this gives him the power to make her listen at last.

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Piggywaspushed · 14/03/2024 19:05

Yes, I'm getting flashbacks to school history too.

It's either another Gaskell, or Middlemarch, or both that bangs on about the Great Reform Act.

Sadik · 14/03/2024 19:03

I've got a little bit ahead now, but I'm enjoying the introduction of Mr Donne and the dodgy political agent.

JamesGiantPledge1 · 14/03/2024 18:27

I feel I am now in a totally different book to the one I started. I’m in Alevel history revision notes about rotten boroughs. I may be a chapter ahead.

Sadik · 12/03/2024 21:10

Yes, I think things might be about to move on a bit in terms of plot, too.

ChessieFL · 12/03/2024 16:14

I’m looking forward to the change of scenery at the seaside.

BishyBarnyBee · 12/03/2024 10:03

babybythesea · 10/03/2024 11:20

I’m still mulling over what Ruth knew about sex.
I agree with the person who said her mother wouldn’t have told her anything as her mother died when Ruth was 12.
I also think that maybe the girls in the sewing house didn’t tell her much - maybe it was obliquely referred to but not in detail. The way that teens often chat and assume everyone knows what they know so don’t explain, but are afraid to ask if someone says something they don’t understand - it’s so awkward!
My final thought was I work in a primary school in a very rural area - about half our kids are farm kids. And yet sex ed lessons are interesting - they know what animals do but they often don’t apply it to humans. They just haven’t given it any thought. And it’s weird to think of people compared to animals so we still get a lot of questions about how it all works despite their often very detailed knowledge of sheep and cows.

So I’m still not convinced Ruth would have known what she was doing, or more precisely what bit of what she was doing would be viewed as wrong.

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I was the one putting forward the "village life, farmyard animal" theory, but I've mulled it over too and I tend to agree. She was 15 when she met him, she had no idea what would happen, and no chance against his determinedly manipulative campaign. She remains fairly oblivious until the reaction of the child in Wales shows her the real cost of her relationship with B.

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BishyBarnyBee · 10/03/2024 18:06

Chapter 21

In which Mrs Bradshaw is indiscreet, Jemima is infuriated, Farquhar feels rejected, Ruth is admired, strawberries are gathered, Elizabeth is exhausted, sea air is prescribed, an election is called and a seaside stay is arranged.

The happy conclusion of the previous evening is shattered when Jemima learns that Ruth had been asked to intervene in her behaviour. She feels managed from all sides and resents the secretive machinations, thinking that it would be more honest and preferable to be openly bought "like an oriental daughter."

Jemima again withdraws from Farquhar, who accepts this as final, assuming she is repulsed by his age. He notes that Ruth is older in experience, if not in years, and that she perfectly fits his notion of what a good wife should be - reserved, calm and self-governed. Jemima watches their growing closeness with an acute sense of what she has lost through her own actions.

The younger girls regale her with the details of their idyllic day of strawberry picking and invite her to join them the next time. She makes an abrupt refusal then spends the day tormented by visions of the happy gathering and Farquhar's imagined attentions to the blushing Ruth. But the walk in the hot sun is too much for Elizabeth who collapses and becomes seriously ill.

Ruth is ashamed that she allowed the girls to exhaust themselves so that Leonard could join them, and spends every spare moment nursing the invalid. Jemima remains cold towards her, denying that anything has changed but leaving Ruth in no doubt that she has lost a precious friendship.

Sea air is prescribed, and it suits Bradshaw to engage a sea-side house for the family, so he can use the town-house for his election campaign. He wishes to challenge the sitting Tory MP with a more radical Liberal and Dissenting candidate, and approaches a noted Liberal agent, perhaps unaware of his unscrupulous reputation. There are hints that the election will be won by hook or by crook, which the famously moral Bradshaw cannot bring himself to examine too closely, as he needs to be sure the campaign will succeed.

A suitable candidate is found - a man with more money than he knows what to do with, bored with superficial pleasures and looking for a new challenge. It is agreed that this Mr Donne will reside at the Bradshaw's and the family will adjourn to the sea-side house 20 miles away.

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babybythesea · 10/03/2024 11:20

I’m still mulling over what Ruth knew about sex.
I agree with the person who said her mother wouldn’t have told her anything as her mother died when Ruth was 12.
I also think that maybe the girls in the sewing house didn’t tell her much - maybe it was obliquely referred to but not in detail. The way that teens often chat and assume everyone knows what they know so don’t explain, but are afraid to ask if someone says something they don’t understand - it’s so awkward!
My final thought was I work in a primary school in a very rural area - about half our kids are farm kids. And yet sex ed lessons are interesting - they know what animals do but they often don’t apply it to humans. They just haven’t given it any thought. And it’s weird to think of people compared to animals so we still get a lot of questions about how it all works despite their often very detailed knowledge of sheep and cows.

So I’m still not convinced Ruth would have known what she was doing, or more precisely what bit of what she was doing would be viewed as wrong.

narniabusiness · 07/03/2024 18:24

Jemima seems very believable in her sulkiness. I think we’ve probably all come across young women a bit like this, who like to have a bit of an argument to test their points of view. As to her deeper feelings for Mr F, any wooing that may take place has to happen in front of the family. How awkward that must be!

Tarahumara · 07/03/2024 15:12

I haven't finished chapter 20 so I'm keeping my eyes firmly away from the summary above, but I just wanted to jump on and say I'm enjoying this more than the Madame Bovary last year. I'm not sure why really, as I do agree it's not very exciting, but the writing and the social commentary have pulled me in, and I am finding myself interested in what happens to the characters. I think maybe there'll be a bit more fire in Ruth at some point!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 07/03/2024 09:09

Thanks @BishyBarnyBee Excellent summary. This is a long chapter.
I liked the dialogue between Jemima's little sisters and their speculation about Jemima and Farquhar. It livened up the chapter as Jemima does too. I feel we have had enough saintliness and godliness for the moment and that this is a welcome change.

BishyBarnyBee · 07/03/2024 08:59

@StColumbofNavron @cassandre @Sadik, I read a lot of Gaskell in the 80s. I did English and Economic and Social History at Manchester Poly, so she was a required read, and I remember enjoying her at the time. But as someone said earlier, there is probably a reason why Ruth is not one of her more famous ones.

Stroppy, impulsive Jemima has livened it up a bit though, hasn't she, and so much more interesting than the Sainted Ruth. I feel we are drifting into Austin territory with the will they/won't they romance, and I don't mind that at all. There is a similar implication that a headstrong young woman needs a strong, benign fatherly figure to sort her out and help her grow into the fine woman she has potential to be. Which is a bit nauseating now but maybe in those days that was the best you could hope for. Because the alternative was a weak or vicious husband who would dominate you - not having a husband not really being on the cards.

@Sadik yes, and that makes it very not-Austin, doesn't it? An awful lot had changed in the 50 years between Emma and Ruth.

@StColumbofNavron I'm with you on the fallen woman obsession. In the last two months I've seen the circus version of Tess, read the Posy Simmonds version of Emma Bovary, and both read and watched the French Lieutenant's Woman. So I've been positively steeped in fallen women. Any others we can think of?

I also watched True Things on the Iplayer this week which is a contemporary film about a woman throwing caution to the wind and having a reckless affair with a compelling but unreliable bloke. I was practically watching through my fingers as she ignored the red flags. It was so risky for her but you could see the joy of being thoroughly spontaneous and not-sensible, though you were just waiting for it to end in tears.

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BishyBarnyBee · 07/03/2024 08:28

Chapter 20

In which Mr Farquhar and Jemima are embroiled in a classic rom com plot. There are misunderstandings, missed opportunities and miserable evenings until Mr Bradshaw pressures Ruth to intervene. Her inevitable grace and dignity shakes Jemima out of her rudeness but also affect Farquhar as he notices for the first time Ruth's brilliancy, tact and the unusual beauty of her face - and form.

Mr Farquhar has feelings for Jemima but believes it slightly preposterous to be in love with an impulsive 20 year old. Jemima has feelings for Farquhar, but resents his paternalistic moralising. She tries to provoke him then feels hurt when he withdraws. Her pride tells her he must love her for who she is, and she is furious when her father intervenes.

She assumes a sullen reserve which Farquhar cannot break through, and Bradshaw asks Ruth to intervene. Ruth is reluctant to accept, but relents when she sees the extent of Jemima's misery. Jemima envies Ruth's calm and heavenly serenity, assuming she has never really know what it is to suffer. Mrs Bradshaw is no help at all. We realise she is weak and not entirely honest, happy to ignore Richard's shortcomings as long as he hides them from his father.

Farquhar is close to giving up on Jemima and compares her gloomy sullenness with Ruth's heavenly calm and brilliant complexion. He notices for the first time the unusual beauty of Ruth's face and form, and her gentle firmness with the children hints at a discipline and strength that he has found lacking in Jemima. However, Ruth's presence brings out some of the old Jemima and Farquhar walks home through the garden-way happier than he has been for a long time, singing that "A man returns, always returns, to his first loves".

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Sadik · 06/03/2024 18:37

I'd say what I most enjoy about Gaskell's books is the social history. So for example Margaret's reluctant acknowledgement in North & South that conditions for agricultural labourers are probably even worse than those of the factory workers in Milton, or seeing the Chartists & trade union pioneers in Mary Barton.

StColumbofNavron · 06/03/2024 07:01

The writing is keeping me going. I didn’t really love North and South either so it’s possible that Gaskell just isn’t for me. That said, I am really pleased I am reading it because I do have a bit of a fascination with literature that is about illegitimacy, adultery, ‘fallen’ women and suchlike so it’s adding to my overall view and understanding. I’m very glad to be doing it in a readlong, because I might still be reading in next year if I was alone.

ChessieFL · 06/03/2024 06:41

I’m another who is sticking with it but getting a little bit bored now. Just waiting for something interesting to happen - hopefully it will pick up now Leonard is older. I do like Sally’s little funny moments though!

cassandre · 05/03/2024 17:27

I'm keen to read the other novels by Gaskell that you mention, Piggy.

I agree that Ruth has turned into quite a one-dimensional character, alas. That said, after an initial period of grumpiness about the pious/moralising nature of the story, I've kind of made my peace with it now. It's certainly an interesting window into Victorian mindsets.

In the most recent chapter, I thought the implicit message against corporal punishment was quite forward-thinking. I also liked the bit about Mr Benson being too inexperienced with children to realise that making up stories (lies!) is a normal part of child development. That's a bit of parental wisdom which Gaskell probably drew from her own experience with children.

I also like the way there's a lot of focus on women characters: not just Ruth, but also Sally, Faith Benson, Jemima and so on.

And I had some sympathy for Miss Benson with her whitening hair. I recently decided to stop dyeing my own hair and embrace the gray. As soon as I read that Miss Benson was worried about being old, I guessed she was probably in her 50s, and voila! she has indeed reached the ripe old age of 56 😂. I'm 52 and my hair is quite white in front!

And Sally is so horrified that Miss B wants to dye her hair. Honestly Sally should mind her own business when it comes to other women's hair. Sheesh! 😂

TheWriteStuff · 05/03/2024 13:54

Oh and it's funny pp mentioned about Dickens because I have read David Copperfield in the meantime and that is also laugh out loud funny in places.

TheWriteStuff · 05/03/2024 13:52

I'm sticking with it but I also am finding it a bit of a slog now - I think because Ruth remains such a wet flannel of a character. All pretty and sweet and sad and repentant and no fire in her at all. It's left her feeling very one dimensional to me - I would be hard to describe her character at all, really. Which is such a contrast to her intro to the book when she seemed more alive. Maybe that's the point being made by Gaskell?

I do, however, enjoy Sally's bits. I loved her savings story and her joy at tricking the Bensons into thinking they gave her a pay rise but instead saving the money to hand back to them. I also enjoyed her argument with the solicitor that she didn;t want an easy to understand will because she was paying for it - so ended up paying more for it than he would have charged her.

I do have a nagging feeling she's become more cartoonish for it, but she is very entertaining.