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New Year, New Fallen Woman: Elizabeth Gaskell's Ruth Readalong

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BishyBarnyBee · 28/12/2023 07:42

Following the very successful Madame Bovary readalong, we have decided to explore another woman who refused to be bound by contemporary mores.
So shocking at the time, two of Gaskell's friends burnt their copies.

"Elizabeth Gaskell's Ruth (1853) was the first mainstream novel to make a fallen woman its eponymous heroine. It is a remarkable story of love, of the sanctuary and tyranny of the family, and of the consequences of lies and deception, one that lays bare Victorian hypocrisy and sexual double-standards. Shocking to contemporary readers, its radical utopian vision of a pure woman faithfully presented predates Hardy's Tess by nearly forty years."

We will aim for two chapters a week - a weekend chapter and a mid week chapter. If I have time, I'll try and do a ChatGPT chapter summary, but anyone else is welcome to jump in if I haven't got there first.

We start 1st Jan, so if you are up for a bit of Victorian passion, guilt, regret and redemption, sign up here!

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Livinginthenineteenseventies · 02/01/2024 15:47

I also enjoyed the descriptive opening. I like it when I need to stop to look up the meaning of a word (in chapter one's case it was 'oriel'!).

Sadik · 01/01/2024 21:19

I agree, much of the joy of reading Gaskell's novels is the social history you learn along the way. (Not that they're not good stories too of course.)

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 01/01/2024 21:11

Got a bit distracted and read into chapter 2. It's pretty good so far. Got me thinking about how much social stuff Jane Austen and even Charlotte Brontë just leave out of their stories.

TooManyPistachios · 01/01/2024 17:49

My first readalong - looking forward to joining you all.
Interesting first chapter, agree regarding Jenny!

Buttalapasta · 01/01/2024 17:35

Jenny seems a good friend. I hope that the cough isn't a portent of what is to come.
I think it might be. Don't get too attached! Interesting first chapter. We learn that Ruth has a strong sense of justice.

StColumbofNavron · 01/01/2024 16:59

I read the thread first but somehow still missed the tree stuff.

As an opening chapter I thought it set the scene well, we met Ruth and I think got well introduced and got to see some of the divisions before anything has really happened.

KohlaParasaurus · 01/01/2024 12:49

The tree as metaphor struck me too. I think it may have passed me by the first time I read the book, back in the 1990s, because I was so caught up in "what happens next" and the main narrative.

Snozzlemaid · 01/01/2024 12:21

Will hopefully keep up and join you all in this.
Loved North and South when I read it a few years ago, not heard of Ruth before, but looking forward to it.
I enjoyed the first chapter. The street description was interesting and can't wait to get to know Ruth better.
I liked how EG included the beautiful flower paintings on the wall in amongst such a gloomy, sad situation that was going on in the room. Great contrast.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 01/01/2024 12:07

Interesting idea about the tree and Ruth. I saw it as representing loss of the natural outdoor world for ordinary people like Ruth.

The descriptions stayed with me and I can picture the stately but shabby houses.

The way MG created characters with tiny digs (at humanity as much as individual characters)reminds me of Jane Austen's writing. I loved the bit about a worthy woman promising diligence will lead to reward and MG's comment:'people persuade themselves that what they wish to do is right.'

We are already being asked to contrast the forgivable behaviour of 'worthy' people and that of Ruth who is honest.

rc22 · 01/01/2024 11:59

I enjoyed the descriptions of the town and how it had changed. Like a PP, I wanted to go out in the snow with Ruth. The end of the chapter sets up the rest of the story describing how Mrs Mason is sending her to the ball because she is beautiful. Her beauty's going to get her into trouble!!

cariadlet · 01/01/2024 11:26

I worried that I might find this difficult to get into because I struggled to focus on the initial description but as soon as we were introduced to the characters, I loved it.

It seems to introduce what I guess will be important themes in the book:

The contrast between the lives of the rich and the poor shown by the young seamstresses working until the early hours to complete the gowns for the hunt ball.

Longbourn (Jo Barker) did something similar. In Pride and Prejudice, we're supposed to admire Elizabeth for striding through the muddy tracks and fields to visit her sick sister. Longbourn showed what it was like for the servants who had to clean the dress afterwards in a time before modern washing machines.

Ruth's need for freedom came out strongly. She sits in the darkest corner because then she can look at the flowers that were painted on the wood. She would rather use the break to look out of the window than to eat or sleep like the other girls.

I wondered if the tree represented Ruth. It used to have space and be surrounded by lawn but now it's hemmed in.

I liked Ruth's honesty. She wanted to observe the hunt ball but spoke up when she believed that the most diligent girls would be chosen and knew that she wasn't one of those.

Jenny seems a good friend. I hope that the cough isn't a portent of what is to come. It reminded me of Helen Burns, the older girl who befriends Jane Eyre at Lowood.

Helloandgoodmorning2 · 01/01/2024 10:23

I enjoyed the first chapter and I was shocked by the girls working until 2am to get a ball gown finished. Next time I read a Victorian novel where the heroine is talking about her magnificant gown I will remember Ruth and her friends hard at work sewing into the night.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 01/01/2024 10:15

i would like to try a read along.

i have tried suggesting one for my book club but I am not sure how that is going to go. I will oder the book tomorrow and catch up

MrsWinkly · 01/01/2024 09:59

Thanks Bishy!
Started last night, until my eyes started crossing ...
Lovely beginning, wanted to go out into the snow with her.
The description of the tree stuck with me - how it used to stand in amongst grass, but was now hemmed in with paving and messy buildings.
I often think that about old trees and the changes that have happened around them. Bit like our lives, as we get older.
Happy New Year to all here! x

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/01/2024 09:25

Yes, I thought it was wonderfully descriptive too. Gloomy, but beautiful.

Happy New Year, everyone.

ChessieFL · 01/01/2024 08:38

Great summary @BishyBarnyBee .

Not the cheeriest of starts to a book but I did enjoy it. I loved the descriptions of the town and how it’s changed, and also the wallpaper that Ruth stares at to cheer herself up slightly.

KohlaParasaurus · 01/01/2024 08:18

Thank you @BishyBarnyBee

I read the first chapter yesterday. I enjoyed the rich opening description of the street architecture, and felt for the tired young seamstresses. Looking forward to discovering more about how Ruth came to be one of them.

Piggywaspushed · 01/01/2024 07:59

No rules! You're in charge! I just remembered the Thursday/Sunday thing and thought it was Chapter One by Thursday.

Never fear .. Chapter One was short and I have now read it. Excellent summary.

I noticed the good old Victorian caged bird analogy, also much beloved of Hardy in Tess. Ruth presses her forehead against the window 'like a bird presses against the bars of its cage'.

We learn a lot about labour exploitation of Victorian workers - but boteh this and the other readalong Nicholas Nickleby throw into relief the exploitation of young women in the fashion industry, which is a more unusual angle. The same is seen briefly in A Christmas Carol via Martha and , later, Eva Smith in An Inspector Calls.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/01/2024 07:55

Yes, that's right @BishyBarnyBee
Lovely chapter summary :)

I enjoyed the first chapter. I felt sorry for the young girls having to work through the night to make the deadline. And Ruth's friend sounds very unwell.

BishyBarnyBee · 01/01/2024 07:49

Piggywaspushed · 01/01/2024 07:34

Oh, we're we meant to read a chapter before 2024? I'll get cracking!

Ooh, maybe I should have checked how it normally works - I haven't lead a read along before so I'm going on what I remember from the ones I've done.

I was assuming - chapter summary posted on the day, you can read it any time over the next few days, and add your thoughts at any point before the next chapter is posted. So no pressure!

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Piggywaspushed · 01/01/2024 07:34

Oh, we're we meant to read a chapter before 2024? I'll get cracking!

BishyBarnyBee · 01/01/2024 07:33

Happy New Year, lovely readers! Kicking us off with our first chapter summary - I really enjoyed doing it but it did take some close attention, so I'm not promising they will be this long every time. Please do chip in, and I'll add my own thoughts later - just wanted to get this up for any early birds. Next chapter on Thursday.

Chapter 1

In which we are introduced to an anonymous eastern town (Easson suggests Norwich), which has sadly declined since its Tudor hey-day. The powerful locals now go to London for the season and the grand old houses have been bought by speculators and turned into smaller dwellings.

Our heroine, Ruth Hilton, is an apprentice in one of these once fashionable buildings. We meet her, and a dozen others, at 2 in the morning, wearily sewing ballgowns for the "older and tougher" seamstress, Mrs Mason. While the others doze or huddle round the fire, Ruth, who is newer to the work and "not yet inured to the hardship of a dressmaker's workroom", gazes out of the window, dreaming of days gone by and yearning to walk out in the snowy winter's night.

Ruth returns to her seat, which she has chosen because that part of the room is still paneled with beautiful flowers, which remind her of home.

The girls are working late to complete all the dresses for the hunt ball the following evening. Mason announces that her four most diligent young ladies will go to the ball to attend any last minute repairs.

Ruth is exhausted and cries that she cannot bear five years of this. But her father has paid a premium for her apprenticeship and she decides she must persevere for the sake of her younger siblings.

She cries her self to sleep, dreaming of her mother. Next morning, she is bewildered to be chosen to attend the ball, as she knows she is not the most hard working. It becomes evident that she has been chosen for her striking looks and not her diligence.

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CarterBeatsTheDevil · 31/12/2023 15:56

I'm in! Looking forward to some disciplined reading!

Livinginthenineteenseventies · 31/12/2023 10:59

I've also ordered a copy and will probably lurk for a while.

Thank you for organising this, I'm looking forward to it.

BishyBarnyBee · 31/12/2023 09:38

onegreyhair · 30/12/2023 21:32

I would like to lurk please. I go to an English Lit class every week which I joined in September and am loving. They have previously read some Elizabeth Gaskell and it comes into our discussions, but I haven't read any. However I also battle an addiction to psychological and murder thrillers, so its a struggle to keep up with my reading homework for that class and I don't think I would be able to manage all the reading.

Lurking is fine! And feel free to add the odd random comment if you are moved to do so.
That sounds like a lovely class, but absolutely understand the need for the less highbrow thrillers as well, we all need our low effort downtime reading.

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