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Tackle!! The latest Jilly Cooper

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blobby10 · 14/11/2023 09:24

Its not brilliant so far - much of the first chapter seems to be spent summarizing what happened in the previous book(s). I'm sorry that its not gripping me like the others did - maybe its my age - but I'm about a third of the way through and normally would stay up into the small hours to read the latest JC but this one I'm finding easy to put down. Hopefully it will pick up pace soon .........!

Is anyone else reading it yet?

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ICantBelieveItsNotButtercunt · 19/12/2024 19:54

SparklingSparkle · 28/11/2023 05:12

Margcunt would be worse.

Time for a brief name reincarnation 😆

PipsielovesNelson · 11/12/2024 14:29

While none of the 11 books in the series can be considered “literature”, as Jilly Cooper progressed through the series, she was actually trying to engage in some sort of social discourse, especially in the later books like Mount and Tackle, which complete the redemption arc of RCB, everyone’s favorite man/child/jackass. From the end of the book Jump (which you can skip) and at the beginning of the book Mount, it is obvious that Rupert was feeling overwhelmed by the chaos in his life (kids and grandkids taking advantage of Taggie’s kind heart, work taking him away from home constantly for weeks on end, his father’s deteriorating mental status, Billy’s death, his looming 60th birthday) and he dealt with it by running away, both physically and emotionally. There is an interesting conversation in Mount between Rupert and his business partner, Valent, where Valent tries to counsel him about “slowing down and appreciating what you have or you risk losing everything”. Of course, Rupert ignored his advice. In spite of his personal and professional success, throughout the series, Rupert remains hopelessly insecure, especially where Taggie is concerned. He is also terribly self-centered and rarely takes time to reflect about how his behavior might impact those around him. In Mount, Rupert’s life devolves into a “perfect storm”, triggering a six-month long, massive adult temper tantrum that causes him to push away everyone and everything he loves and engage in bad behavior. His bad behavior with Gala was obviously him searching for the closeness and affection he felt with both Billy and Taggie that he thought was lost to him. He was certainly not in love with her. It was just sex, which is what he always turned to when he felt lost and alone before Taggie came into his life and, after 22 years, he reverted to type. Much has been made of the ridiculous term that he utters when he is intimate with Gala. I think that Jilly Cooper inserted this bit of outrageousness to highlight that Gala was just an object to him, like so many of the women he bonked before he married Taggie, as he never uses her name during those interactions. Also, their interactions were limited, spaced out over the course of 6 months and were precipitated each time by jealousy over attention paid to Taggie by the evil Jan, his demented father’s totally hot, young caregiver who lived with them and with whom Taggie had formed a close relationship because he gave her the much-needed support that Rupert did not give her because he was away on business so often and was crabby and short with her (and everyone else) when he was home. Oh Rupert, how could you do this to Taggie? Well, because, at the of 60, he still harbored some of the massive insecurity that fueled his bad boy behavior as a young man—he had matured over the course of his marriage, but not completely. When he finally realizes that his arrogant, self-centered behavior resulted in his failure to protect and support Taggie at a time when she desperately needed him to be there for her and almost caused him to lose everything he truly loved, Rupert finally looks beyond himself and grows up. In the subsequent book, Tackle, there are a couple of instances when he admits to the reader that, at one time, he might have been tempted to misbehave, but no more. He is clearly more self-aware and his marriage, as well as his relationships with his children and close friends, are on solid ground. Finally!!!!!!!! Mount is a tough book, but it paints a realistic picture of our much-adored RCB and how hard it is to find personal growth, even when surrounded by true love. If you liked Rivals and the Rupert/Taggie relationship arc, you should read it. I must admit, I had to wade through Tackle, but the exchange between Rupert and Taggie on the last page redeems it. 😀

burnoutbabe · 11/12/2024 09:06

Spot on.

If I didn't have the last 2 as library books I'd not have finished.

I have got Mount in paperback now and failed to get more than halfway through. But I have re-read the earlier ones a fair few times. (Maybe not Pandora)

Maybe I get rid of any from wicked onwards and just have fond memories. It's only Dora who I like in new books but I had an idea she was a dumpy thing? (Lizzie like)

I did see jilly cooper live recently. She should stop writing, everyone has such fondness for her. (Or just don't write huge novels-short articles would work)

Ozgirl75 · 11/12/2024 09:00

I’m reading Tackle right now and honestly, it’s so cringemakingly poor. Why is everyone “known as” something? She started that idea in one of the musical ones and it’s like, there are already feckin hundreds of characters and now we have to learn two names of them all as well?
None of the characters have any depth to them, I don’t care about any of them, they’re so one dimensional.
I loved Polo, Riders and Rivals and liked The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous but none of the others have been good since then and this one is only slightly better than Mount which I couldn’t even finish.

Lilactimes · 24/11/2024 23:57

I hadn’t read any for 20 - 30 odd years … then watched Rivals on Disney and loved it. So listened to Rivals and Polo again on Audible. Really missing them now I’ve finished them. Still don’t think I can face any of the others tho. Especially after all these reviews!

HausofHolbein · 17/11/2024 18:25

After Wicked, they were all utterly awful. And don't get me started on how inaccurate the later Audible narrations were (Helen suddenly with an English accent, etc...)

ohyesido · 17/11/2024 18:04

Mount was the worst book I've ever read.

Graphic descriptions of women becoming aroused by a stud farm?

And who thinks being called Buttercunt by married man in his 60s during sex is flattering and complimentary....?

Indianajet · 17/11/2024 17:50

I gave up on Tackle - the only books of hers that I really enjoyed and re-read are Riders, Rivals and Polo. The others went steadily downhill.

SquatBetty · 17/11/2024 17:42

I actually didn't mind Tackle too much after thinking it was going to be appalling. It helps that Rupert features heavily in it. Nothing she writes will ever be as terrible as Wicked anyway.

I think the problem is that Jilly is quite old now and it really shows in her writing. The sex frequency and descriptions are nowhere near as good as they were in her much earlier books and she recycles a lot of the same sub plots and character types.

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 13/11/2024 10:06

I thought Tackle was rubbish. All the main storylines had been done before in some form or other, the players had distinctly un-footballer-like names (OK, I think one of them was actually technically called Peter but always known by some daft punning nickname, the rest read like a list of upper-class rock stars' children), a very nice character from a previous book was suddenly made into a villain and then discarded just to further the plot, I just don't believe every player in an at first mediocre team has their own crowd song, and I particularly disliked a thing about a woman who had had a very traumatic bereavement suddenly becoming happy again because she got a new relationship that seemed to come out of nowhere. There was one subsidiary storyline with a couple I rather liked, but again it wasn't all that original - I always knew they would get together in the end (and the woman had another spectacularly daft name).

It made me wonder if Jilly Cooper is in the early stages of dementia. Iris Murdoch (a very different sort of author in most ways) also did this thing of becoming more repetitive and formulaic and somehow sort of rushed seeming in her last few books.

PipsielovesNelson · 10/11/2024 23:00

I finished MOUNT, but was so devastated by RCB’s treatment of Taggie, that I am almost afraid to start Tackle. Ruining their marriage (and doing it in such a self-centered cavalier manner) and hurting Taggie has put me off Rupert forever.

Threefeetmore · 17/07/2024 13:34

I've just had a search to see what other people think of Tackle,and found this thread. I have only read Riders and Rivals, and that was years ago.
I'm finding it quite putdownable too, which is disappointing. So many clichés. But it's quite fun.

AcheyBreaky · 15/04/2024 17:23

Agree with @TheMorrigans it got very silly. Part of me likes that Jilly stuck to form and wrote a book in the same vein as Riders/Rivals etc but most of me found it lazy. Characters were just carbon copies of those we've seen before - the boutique shop owner being a prime example.

As for the constant puns, it's not good when you have to scratch your brain to work them out and no way would the lads of 20ish use some of them. And don't even get me started on the absolutely ridiculous need to give everyone a nickname. Overall I found little to enjoy which is a shame because the plot isn't bad and revisiting characters like Rupert & Taggie brings me joy...but I'll stick to the vintage stuff.

TheMorrigans · 10/04/2024 14:56

It got very silly in places. Specifically when a character who is an actor is employed to teach posh footballers to speak with more 'working class' accents. For example (despite this being in the Cotswolds) the advice is to say 'pass' with a flat 'a' (a northern speech pattern). Yet he's also advised the same player to say 'parfway' instead of 'pathway'. Not only is this silly, but it's inconsistent silliness.

CurlewKate · 28/11/2023 09:53

I'm listening to Tackle and quite enjoying it. I admire Cooper's ability to continue to monetise her sagas! Her style makes me laugh-the way all the characters are introduced in full every time they're mentioned. But I think it was rapidly downhill from Rivals, which I do listen to quite often. Didn't do the school ones- they're a bit icky in my opinion.

SparklingSparkle · 28/11/2023 05:12

Margcunt would be worse.

Hoglet70 · 24/11/2023 17:01

TheAccidental · 23/11/2023 21:11

Wasn't it buttercunt? I tried to blank it from my memory but that's the word that I have stuck in my head. I physically am shuddering reading it, total cringe.

You're right, it was buttercunt. Imagine being told your lady bits taste of Lurpak 😂

istara · 24/11/2023 00:13

I barely remember the two schools one other than it was far from her best form.

It might be worth re-reading that before Tackle as there are several characters from it that I can't for the life of me remember.

She's a wonderful writer but I wish she had stuck to a sport she knew better. Even cricket maybe. The "crowd chants" in Tackle are unbearable.

savoycabbage · 23/11/2023 22:07

The one about the two schools finished me off. I haven't managed to read the good ones since. Riders, Rivals and The Man who Made Husbands Jealous.

CruellaDeVilla · 23/11/2023 22:00

I’ve just started it and luckily have just re read Mount (terrible!) - this book follows on from it, which is strange. I’m finding it easy to put down so far!

Horsedoglover59 · 23/11/2023 21:24

I think I gave up after Appasionata, and haven't the energy to read any more, especially after what's been said here. I do think that a little of JC goes quite a long way. Her first few books were great - and I agree, Rivals is definitely one of my favourites. But having to learn a new cast of people may not be for me at present.

Cheeesus · 23/11/2023 21:16

I didn’t manage to finish Jump. Maybe I should try again.

TheAccidental · 23/11/2023 21:11

Hoglet70 · 23/11/2023 21:02

I struggled with Wicked. Much as I like to think I'm not a big prude (I have no issues with Billy and Janey in the stinging nettles and Rupert and his silky pubes) I wasn't a fan of reading about such young, sexually active children. It was super cringy. Not as cringy as 'honey c*nt' in the last book though and I did think at that point, eeeeeeeeew time to retire now Jilly!

Wasn't it buttercunt? I tried to blank it from my memory but that's the word that I have stuck in my head. I physically am shuddering reading it, total cringe.

Hoglet70 · 23/11/2023 21:02

I struggled with Wicked. Much as I like to think I'm not a big prude (I have no issues with Billy and Janey in the stinging nettles and Rupert and his silky pubes) I wasn't a fan of reading about such young, sexually active children. It was super cringy. Not as cringy as 'honey c*nt' in the last book though and I did think at that point, eeeeeeeeew time to retire now Jilly!

MerryMidwinter · 23/11/2023 20:59

I was so excited at the thought of a new JC then I remembered how dreadful her previous few have been especially the last one (won’t mention that word 😳).

I can’t bear all the cliches, endless new characters who are ‘known as’ something not very hilarious and terrible puns. She was such a fantastic writer in her early books but she’s really lost it lately.

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