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Looking back to Bridget Jones

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MsAmerica · 03/11/2023 23:43

Bridget Jones Deserved Better. We All Did.
Helen Fielding’s ditzy heroine was all the rage when she was introduced to American audiences in 1998. Today, her nuttiness and self-loathing read like a relic from another time.
By Elisabeth Egan

Before we tackle the question of whether “Bridget Jones’s Diary” is even remotely amusing in today’s post-Roe, #MeToo, politically polarized world, let’s turn the page back to the summer of 1998, when Publishers Weekly declared, “It’s hard to imagine a funnier book appearing anywhere this year.” Fielding’s British publisher told British Vogue, it’s “not just a book phenomenon, it’s a phenomenon. Like ‘Catch-22,’ it’s gone into the language.”

In her New York Times review, Elizabeth Gleick wrote, “People will be passing around copies of ‘Bridget Jones’s Diary’ for a reason: It captures neatly the way modern women teeter between ‘I am woman’ independence and a pathetic girlie desire to be all things to all men.”...

She was the toast of book clubs, the subject of editorials, a lightning rod for morning-show debate and fodder for late-night comedy. Some readers were charmed by Bridget Jones; others were disgusted.

“Bridget is such a sorry spectacle, wallowing in her man-crazed helplessness, that her foolishness cannot be excused,” Alex Kuczynski wrote in a Times column headlined “Dear Diary: Get Real.” She disliked that the book made “humor out of the premise that being neurotic is cute. That women eat too much. That we succumb to the lure of too many cocktails. That if we don’t enjoy our jobs, we just stick around and, heck, sleep with the boss (who never calls us back).”

For the whole article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/30/books/review/bridget-joness-diary-helen-fielding.html

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Mamette · 01/12/2023 06:59

Ugh I hate this “let’s look back and pick things apart” trend.

It’s of its time! It was hilarious and a bit of fun. Yes it contains dated attitudes, that’s because it is dated.

I loved the book. The film not so much as I’m not a RZ fan.

Bridget’s mother had a similar personality and lifestyle to my mother at the time so I could relate, unfortunately.

BadSkiingMum · 01/12/2023 06:56

I’m old enough to remember it being a series of columns Helen Fielding wrote in The Times. I think it had come out of the ‘Pride and Prejudice’ fever following the BBC adaptation? Hence Mr Darcy.

I liked the columns but didn’t immediately like the films - found B a bit too much - but they have grown on me over the years.

Yes, the class element of the films never seems to be mentioned. Bridget is definitely a girl from a naice family in the Home Counties!

desperatemum24 · 01/12/2023 06:51

I found it very relatable as a woman of a similar age at the time. Worrying about weight, getting drunk, making poor choices. The twee way of talking got irritating but there was some funny parts. It maybe is dated , I definitely remember some inappropriate misogyny that doesn't get called out but that doesn't make it bad. The follow up where Helen Fielding killed off Mark Darcy was pretty poor.

lljkk · 01/12/2023 06:45

Never saw the appeal back then. Was the navel gazing that especially unappealed. It's ok. Other people can like things I don't like.

THisbackwithavengeance · 01/12/2023 06:28

It was certainly a novel of its time.

However even then I was exasperated by the general view that BJ was an object of pity when she had her own flat in central London, excellent friends, a career in TV (I mean FFS) and obviously wealthy parents.

pocketblocket · 30/11/2023 21:24

I read it when I was 18 and it - along with mother's hideously patriarchal views - put the fear of god into me that if I wasn't married with a baby on the way by 30 I would be an abject failure.

I would love to have grown up like millenials did rather than that horrifying shit.

(I was married by 29 and had a baby almost to the day I turned 30).

MsJuniper · 30/11/2023 21:08

When the book came out, I remember how refreshing it was to read a heroine who not only wasn't perfect but was clumsy, silly, slapstick at times. We passed a few copies around our friend group and talked about it endlessly.

It's hard to think back to that because everything afterwards tried to emulate it - the ditzy girl trope became tired and wasn't backed by the intelligence of Helen Fielding and Jane Austen.

Wildernesstips · 30/11/2023 20:52

I think it was indicative of its time. I watched the film last week and was as much appalled at the amount of smoking in public places as I was at Bridget's desperation. Not so much in a pearl-clutching way, but it feels like it wasn't that long ago, but times have changed so much!

Stargazer46 · 30/11/2023 20:37

Bridget Jones was far more realistic than much of the women’s fiction that was about at the time. I’m feeling the need to reread and see what I think of it now.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/11/2023 19:52

ginasevern · 30/11/2023 17:30

Tbh, judging by the amount of posts on MN about finding a man, losing a man, being helplessly in love with a sleazy bastard man and endless hand ringing about finding a man to reproduce with, it doesn't look as though much has changed in the last 25 years. Or even since Jane Austin actually.

Love makes the world go around so it's not really surprising (or wrong).

Gwenhwyfar · 30/11/2023 19:51

"That women eat too much. That we succumb to the lure of too many cocktails. That if we don’t enjoy our jobs, we just stick around and, heck, sleep with the boss (who never calls us back).”"

Well, apart from sleeping with the boss...

ginasevern · 30/11/2023 17:30

Tbh, judging by the amount of posts on MN about finding a man, losing a man, being helplessly in love with a sleazy bastard man and endless hand ringing about finding a man to reproduce with, it doesn't look as though much has changed in the last 25 years. Or even since Jane Austin actually.

Desecratedcoconut · 30/11/2023 17:30

Oh, wait...was that not a self help book?

Sluj · 30/11/2023 17:27

It was pretty realistic in many ways though - maybe not with human rights lawyers, posh flats in Borough Market and tv careers, just in terms of lurching between relationships and having fun- some good and some not.

Mollyplop999 · 30/11/2023 17:20

Well myself and my husband watched BJ the other evening and still enjoyed it. It's meant to be taken light heartedly . There are far more serious and worrying issues regarding women than this film or book.

tobee · 30/11/2023 17:15

I've never read Bridget Jones or seen the films but the article writer seems utterly po faced. I wonder if they are very young?

Why can't people cope with reading (or watching) things with a dated pov?