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Who chooses the narrator for an audiobook?

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WildFlowerBees · 21/09/2023 17:48

Referring to the latest Richard Osman book, this is the second audiobook of his that Fiona Shaw has narrated and it's really awful. Accents are terrible sometimes she does them sometimes not they don't sound like the Welsh or Liverpool they're meant to and her whispery voice just ruins the audio version for me.

The last book she narrated was also awful so who chooses the narrator, is it the author or publishers?

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Citygirlrurallife · 23/09/2023 20:02

RightOnTheEdge · 23/09/2023 19:01

Thanks for that answer @Citygirlrurallife!
It's all really interesting! Your job sounds great. Does it ever ruin the stories for you though? Do you have to read/ listen to the same bits over again?
You must have to edit stories you don't like or you think are rubbish 😆

Mmm doesn’t really ruin the stories for me but I def can’t prep a book in the same way as just reading a book for fun because I have to look out for so much, but then the process of listening to the performer is lovely because you rediscover it in another way, although I’m reading along with them so I have to keep hyper focused too.

I do find if I do too many audiobooks back to back it then spoils reading for pleasure because I’m mentally taking notes as though I’m prepping

yes I have def worked on books I don’t like (my second book was 700 dry academic pages on neurobiology!) but these days I get to be a bit pickier rather than having to take any job that comes my way and I’ve worked on some AMAZING books

Citygirlrurallife · 23/09/2023 19:56

WildFlowerBees · 23/09/2023 18:20

Another question for you @Citygirlrurallife do those that have narrated ever look at the book reviews do you know? I wonder if any of them take on the listeners feedback or simply narrate get paid and move on.

The ones I’ve worked with (the prolific narrators who do it more or less full time) certainly do. In fact almost every actor I know reads their reviews!! So do I in fact, and I take on any feedback that’s relevant and useful

FizzyStream · 23/09/2023 19:10

Agree with previously mentioned
John Lee
Davina Porter
Julia Whelan

Also Saskia Maarleveld who narrates most/all of Kate Quinn's books is amazing.

I was really disappointed with Roy Dotrice's narration of the Game of Thrones books but it's a pretty massive challenge to do them so not sure anyone could do any better Confused

RightOnTheEdge · 23/09/2023 19:01

Thanks for that answer @Citygirlrurallife!
It's all really interesting! Your job sounds great. Does it ever ruin the stories for you though? Do you have to read/ listen to the same bits over again?
You must have to edit stories you don't like or you think are rubbish 😆

WildFlowerBees · 23/09/2023 18:20

Another question for you @Citygirlrurallife do those that have narrated ever look at the book reviews do you know? I wonder if any of them take on the listeners feedback or simply narrate get paid and move on.

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Citygirlrurallife · 23/09/2023 17:51

RightOnTheEdge · 23/09/2023 09:49

This thread was good timing because I returned the audio book of The Other Passenger by Louise Candlish to the library yesterday because it just wasn't engaging me.

It wasn't the reason I returned it but there are so many complaints in the reviews about being able to hear the narrator swallowing and mouth noises and I was wondering how it all worked and how no one had picked up on it before it got released? Especially when it's quite a big name author and popular book.

I was also wondering how the wrong name being repeated lots of times in the Stike novels was missed especially as it was a few books along and not the first one. Surely JKR would have a top team doing her books?

That’s really bad - that’s the editor’s job to remove all the clicks and plosives and mouth noise. If the actor has a director and/or sound engineer they should be warning them about it but if it’s a self record then the editor edits what they can out and they make the actor do pick ups where it’s not editable.

same for inconsistency with pronunciation. Honestly a lot of audio studios just cut so many corners and I agree it spoils the listener experience - especially when those of us who work in the industry are absolutely fastidious about this sort of thing. I’m currently prepping a book set in the medieval ages so am taking great to care to make sure the Latin is all
pronounced classically, and I just finished a book that had loads of academics quoted who aren’t online anywhere saying their names so I literally called round the universities they worked in to make sure we were saying their names right.

I know of one studio that doesn’t even use proper editors but just an editing program that therefore doesn’t pick up all the inconsistencies or mispronunciations or mouth noise

JaninaDuszejko · 23/09/2023 14:52

Fascinating thread, thanks @WildFlowerBees for answering the question and @Citygirlrurallife for sharing so much information.

off · 23/09/2023 11:08

I bet the day will come when AI synthetic voices have added mouth noises for authenticity 🤢

Bananas1350 · 23/09/2023 10:48

Jodi Taylor has Zara ramm nareator her books. Best narrator I have listened to. And I listen to hundreds a year.

RightOnTheEdge · 23/09/2023 09:49

This thread was good timing because I returned the audio book of The Other Passenger by Louise Candlish to the library yesterday because it just wasn't engaging me.

It wasn't the reason I returned it but there are so many complaints in the reviews about being able to hear the narrator swallowing and mouth noises and I was wondering how it all worked and how no one had picked up on it before it got released? Especially when it's quite a big name author and popular book.

I was also wondering how the wrong name being repeated lots of times in the Stike novels was missed especially as it was a few books along and not the first one. Surely JKR would have a top team doing her books?

Citygirlrurallife · 22/09/2023 22:40

WildFlowerBees · 22/09/2023 17:21

@Citygirlrurallife do authors ever listen to their own book think it's awful and ask for a change of narrator after the whole book has been narrated?

Not in my direct experience! But who knows….

WildFlowerBees · 22/09/2023 19:58

gingangirly · 22/09/2023 19:57

Oh can't a bad narrator totally ruin a book? I've had to stop listening to some simply because I couldn't bear the voice.

It can't just be me, surely?

Not just you, I've not got past the sample on more books than I've actually listened to.

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gingangirly · 22/09/2023 19:57

Oh can't a bad narrator totally ruin a book? I've had to stop listening to some simply because I couldn't bear the voice.

It can't just be me, surely?

WildFlowerBees · 22/09/2023 19:46

I've just downloaded Stranger Times thank you @biscuitcat Smile

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RightOnTheEdge · 22/09/2023 19:39

biscuitcat · 22/09/2023 08:59

Such an interesting thread. To add to the recommendations, The Stranger Times series by C. K. McDonnell are read by Brendan McDonald and he's completely fabulous, absolutely makes the books.

I totally agree biscuitcat
He's absolutely brilliant! Perfect for those books.

Tinybrother · 22/09/2023 18:14

Also wizard lizard in Superworm is kobna HS :D

HamBone · 22/09/2023 17:39

PricklyWhenWet · 22/09/2023 10:30

I absolutely love Stephen Fry as a narrator especially the Harry Potter books. I’ve given up on so many books because the voice jars and just sounds wrong. Some American accents are ok and some are really hard to get on with. I used to love detective novels like Dalziel and Pascoe but there are two narrators and one of them just sends me to sleep.

@PricklyWhenWet FYI, I’m not sure whether they’re available in the UK, but Jim Dale narrated the Harry Potter series for the US market and he’s fantastic, I mean really off the scale differentiating between the character’s voices. He won multiple awards for his renditions.

We can get them on Audible in the States and they’ve got us through many long car journeys, my teenagers started listening to them again this summer at 18 and 15. 😂

Letsnotargue · 22/09/2023 17:28

Tinybrother · 22/09/2023 09:20

I absolutely get how hard audiobook narration must be. The one that always comes up is Kobna Holdbrook-Smith and how the author now puts obscure accents in new books in the series to test him (and the production team I guess!) Grin

Kobna is one of my all-time favourite narrators. I’ve heard about Ben Aaronovich giving him more and more difficult accents to do too.

I did notice at the start of the most recent one Kobna changed how he pronounced Aaronovich, which seems really weird after all these books. Surely if it was wrong you’d have corrected it after book one. And if it’s not wrong why change it now?

The Rivers of London audiobooks narrated by others really haven’t grabbed me the way that the originals have. Kobna is just so good. He’s also the prison warden in Paddington 2 (took me a while to work out why his voice was so familiar yet I didn’t recognise his face - sorry Kobna!)

WildFlowerBees · 22/09/2023 17:21

@Citygirlrurallife do authors ever listen to their own book think it's awful and ask for a change of narrator after the whole book has been narrated?

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WildFlowerBees · 22/09/2023 17:19

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 22/09/2023 13:16

I’m pleased someone has started this thread and I knew before opening exactly what would have prompted it. Fiona Shaw’s scouse accent is truly truly woeful and really dampens my enjoyment of the whole thing. The reason she took over from LM - who I thought did a fabulous job was LM was too busy to fit number 3 in. Disappointed they didn’t go back to her for 4 though. I’ll still listen but I will continue to seethe each time a ‘scouse’ accent is murdered.

Agreed it's terrible and Bob the Welshman sounds Indian but later on appears to become more West Country. It would have been better if Bob had been written to have FAS.

Narration is very personal it seems, I haven't found many I really like, some are completely monotone. I haven't found a male narrator I like.

Dawn French Ruth Jones and Caroline Quentin I enjoyed.

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Citygirlrurallife · 22/09/2023 17:08

@snurtifier PRH has its own studios but often also has to use Independant studios. (The US branch weirdly doesn’t use the studios for the U.K. branch) and as far as I’m aware no other publisher has their own studio

snurtifier · 22/09/2023 15:28

@Citygirlrurallife Do the publishers have their own in-house recording studios for audiobooks, or do they hire third-party facilities? If they need to find something outside of London where do they look? (I have friends who run recording studios, they'd probably welcome the business.)

tobee · 22/09/2023 15:20

I listen to quite a lot of non fiction; specifically history books, and quite often the narrator is woeful. Presumably because they don't have the money and not many people buy the audiobooks.

I agree about Jane McDowell and the Wimsey books. She's incredibly flat and bored sounding. Although I'd prefer to have Edward Petherbridge read them Smile. Hes possibly a bit frail now though sadly.

Also Peter Firth beautifully read the Regeneration Trilogy which now no longer seem to be available. Simon Russell Beale has now done them so a bigger name. Peter Firth was beautifully understated.

HangingByYourFingernails · 22/09/2023 14:56

SuperCam · 22/09/2023 14:15

I cannot believe no-one has yet mentioned The Gilgamesh experiment (John Finnemore) 😁

I thought of it instantly but didn't comment because by its nature it's too difficult to talk about in type.
"there's this best selling author and he insists on doing the audiobook himself but he's got a terrible voice and then he insists on doing all the lady voices and the foreign accents and the director gets more and more concerned.."
doesn't really capture the hilarity.

JustAnotherCunningStunt · 22/09/2023 14:19

pharmachameleon · 22/09/2023 08:53

So glad you started this thread OP! Sometimes I can't concentrate on an audiobook as I'm thinking about how the recording takes place and how difficult it must be! Thanks for the inside info @Citygirlrurallife.
One of my favourite narrators was Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie with her narration of Americanah. She was amazing.

Unless there was a version I am not familiar with, this was Adjoa Andoh, previously praised on this thread by @CoolCalmCollected. I agree, I would listen to her read a shopping list. She also narrated ‘Half of a Yellow Sun’ I think and ‘Stay with me’ by Ayobami Adebayo.

Now, if only she had read ‘Girl, Woman, Other!’