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*SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS INK BLACK HEART *SPOILERS*

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TheInkBlackHeart · 31/08/2022 10:34

Right I hope the title gives it away. Spoilers ahoy after / during reading Galbraith's The Ink Black Heart.

I swear if someone complains about spoilers now I'll lose it Grin

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PauliString · 18/12/2022 21:01

I think Janice said that, but Janice is not a reliable narrator.

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 18/12/2022 20:52

I didn’t think Brenner was a drug addict in the book, thought he was weirder than that.

I’d have to go back & look but I think Brenner was either in a concentration camp during the war or responsible for treating people who had been, which was meant to be why he was as he was.

ChillinwiththeVillains · 18/12/2022 17:58

Oh really! That’s brilliant.

IndominusRex · 18/12/2022 14:42

Janice was played by Tom Burke’s mum. How great is that!!

ChillinwiththeVillains · 18/12/2022 12:05

Ha! Yes they had to prune a lot. I didn’t think Brenner was a drug addict in the book, thought he was weirder than that. But tbf a lot of good solid roles for older women. Thought the actor playing Margot was a very good choice too. Never think they are v good at picking young male actors save for Strike himself. For example .Raph in last series and this time Barclay and Saul Morris looked too similar I thought.

KillingMeDeftly · 18/12/2022 10:20

I was disappointed that they cut one of the best lines from the book though. When Strike visits an ex-prostitute and she asks him a certain question.

ChillinwiththeVillains · 18/12/2022 09:54

Pat’s line about what merits a stamp (at the end of last episode) was fabulous. As was the Janice the nurse actor. Really enjoyed the show. DH reckons it is better as JKR not precious about hacking up her books to make a better show. But definitely captured spirit of the book very well.

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 13/12/2022 18:22

I’ve not come across Ruth Sheen before but loving her as Pat.

EdieLedwell · 10/12/2022 12:42

She'll absolutely nail it.

DuchessDandelion · 09/12/2022 18:52

Yes!! That's exactly who I had in my head, so glad they got this right!

theydontspeakforus · 08/12/2022 17:21

Perfect casting!!! Ruth Sheen was on my list of contenders!!!!

EdieLedwell · 08/12/2022 16:12

It's Ruth Sheen

PatChauncey · 08/12/2022 15:29

It's me obviously 😆

theydontspeakforus · 08/12/2022 13:15

Who is it???

EdieLedwell · 07/12/2022 15:27

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/12/2022 15:23

I've always pictured Pat as Pat Butcher from EastEnders. I'm going to be slightly disappointed in anyone else! 😂

😀

I always pictured nurse Phylis from Call the Midwife. She's playing his Aunt Joan!

ReneBumsWombats · 07/12/2022 15:26

I picture her with a jet black bob, clearly dyed. I don't remember if that's the description of her but it's how I think of her.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/12/2022 15:23

I've always pictured Pat as Pat Butcher from EastEnders. I'm going to be slightly disappointed in anyone else! 😂

*SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS INK BLACK HEART *SPOILERS*
EdieLedwell · 07/12/2022 14:28

So finally we see who Pat is! Did anyone watch the trailer on BBC breakfast this morning?

ReneBumsWombats · 04/12/2022 10:10

IndominusRex · 03/12/2022 16:53

There’s a trans character in The Silkworm who isn’t a suspect and is written very sympathetically. Funny how that never gets mentioned amid all the hyperbole but whole articles were written about transphobia in Troubled Blood by people who had never read it.

Pippa does get mentioned. People think she's the killer. They make a lot of the fact that she tried to stab Strike even though a) there was context and b) Strike and Robin both agree she never really intended to hurt him, she was just very upset because she thought Strike had stitched up her adopted mother figure. They don't report her and she's later helpful in the investigation. And she's never misgendered by anyone in the novel, including the third person narrator.

And of course, the only person who did express any transphobia in the book was the killer!

They all need to get in the bin, seriously.

IndominusRex · 03/12/2022 16:53

There’s a trans character in The Silkworm who isn’t a suspect and is written very sympathetically. Funny how that never gets mentioned amid all the hyperbole but whole articles were written about transphobia in Troubled Blood by people who had never read it.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 30/11/2022 18:55

Took Troubled Blood out of the library today for a re-read. Exciting!

CrossPurposes · 30/11/2022 15:59

It's definitely Sophie Ward.

N0RKS · 30/11/2022 06:17

PatChauncey · 28/11/2022 18:46

Val McDermid has an actual transwoman murderer (with intact penis) in one of her early Carol Jordan and Tony Hill books!
I haven't read it for years but I think there is some actual transphobia in it.
Funny how she hasn't been vilified - and she has never stood up for JRK.

And the book is called “the Mermaids Singing” IIRC

PatChauncey · 28/11/2022 18:46

Val McDermid has an actual transwoman murderer (with intact penis) in one of her early Carol Jordan and Tony Hill books!
I haven't read it for years but I think there is some actual transphobia in it.
Funny how she hasn't been vilified - and she has never stood up for JRK.

PauliString · 28/11/2022 17:29

Off the top of my head, I can think of detective stories by Josephine Tey, Ellis Peters, Dorothy L Sayers and Ruth Rendell that have a cross dressing suspect or hero(ine) or victim. Disguise and misdirection is a pretty standard feature of detective fiction, really.